Posted on 09/25/2022 8:19:29 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
What are the implications of purchasing an electric vehicle (E.V.)? Let's find out.
A new full-size E.V. capable of traveling about 300 miles with a single charge currently sells for about $60,000. Typical E.V. battery replacement after 3–5 years of normal use sells for $10,000–$15,000. This type lithium battery replacement is handled only by an authorized dealership. On the other hand, a new full-size gas vehicle (G.V.) sells for approximately $40,000. Typical battery replacement for the same normal use sells for $100–$150 and can be replaced and installed by the individual owner.
Let's consider the cost of ownership of driving a vehicle 100,000 miles. For the E.V., an 8-hour charge, which is good for a range of about 300 miles, is now about $8 per charge, or about $2,700. The E.V. cost includes a $60,000 initial cost plus the $2,700 charging cost and a $10,000 battery, totaling $72,700. For the G.V., the cost includes $40,000 initial cost plus $300 battery (2) replacements and 4,000 gallons of gasoline, averaging 25 miles per gallon at current gas price of $3.50 per gallon, or $14,000, and $2,000 maintenance, which totals $56,300.
It follows that the price for gasoline would have to be about $7.60 per gallon for ownership cost of the E.V. to be equivalent to that of a traditional G.V. These numbers are part of the hidden truths.
A typical E.V. battery weighs one thousand pounds and is about the size of a car trunk. It contains 25 pounds of lithium; 60 pounds of nickel; 44 pounds of manganese; 30 pounds of cobalt; 200 pounds of copper; and 400 pounds of aluminum, steel, and plastic. This type of battery contains over 6,000 individual lithium-ion cells. The majority of these materials are derived from mining operations worldwide.
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There are emissions of course from gas, coal and oil powered electricity generating plants. Plug the EV into the charger and you are connected "directly" into the missions producing power plant.
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Not arguing the specifics of this statement BUT it MAY be missing the macro-economic consideration that just because recycled materials are used does not equate to making this use an environmentally 'free' use. There are any number of users of recycled materials such as steel and others. Use in these EVs is fine but once put to that use in EVs, that use is for the life of that EV.
Important and valid economic concept at play here, economics is 'frequently' driven by supply & demand opportunity costing models. How long ago was it that Lithium was a cheap material in costing because there was no market for it? Now there are worries about it being priced out due to shortfalls in availability. Adam Smith is like Isaac Newton, his theories may not be the most modern in economics but they still are a practical first read on how markets will react to certain conditions.
I’ll stick with my 22 year old Civic, thanks. (Manual transmission too).
The author leaves out the fact that the cost of operating a BEV always was going to increase in proportion to their popularity because BEV owners don’t pay gas tax. As gas tax revenues decline, the gummint invariably will look for a way to offset the shortfall, and since BEV buyers by and large have higher-than-average disposable incomes, imposing a wheel and/or road tax on their non-ICE cars is low-hanging fruit.
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My own mechanical engineering opinion, from an overall systems perspective, is that all conceivable transportation systems will use roughly the same amount of resources over the lifespan of the vehicle. The cost of any system has three components: 1) Capital cost, 2) Operating cost, and 3) Maintenance cost.
Sure you can get “free” energy from wind and solar and EVs should have slightly lower lifetime maintenance costs due to fewer moving parts in the “engine,” but those are more than offset by the huge increase in capital costs and vastly increased consumption of rare minerals.
Furthermore, EV and “green” economics only appear attractive today because they are highly skewed by the green zealots. “Green” economics is dishonest because it ignores the disposal costs of the vehicles and the solar and windmill plants at the end of their economic lives. The first generation of solar and wind plants is coming to the end of its economic lifetime very soon (less than ten years from now) and the inescapable problem of recycling vast quantities of toxic materials will be upon us.
It also ignores the huge subsidies that governments use to make the purchase price of “green” economically attractive. Governments, in their persistent drive to be “green,” socialize the costs of that effort, so all of us pay lots more taxes. We should be happy to pay more taxes so the rich early adopters can shout “Look at me! I’m GREEN” when they drive their expensive play toys.
The first five paragraphs must have been written by a 12 year old at best. A silly, facile comparison.
No fan of ev here but this is superficial analysis. Sophomoric.
IF there is no climate emergency
EVs are stupid
THERE IS NO CLIMATE EMERGENCY!
yep
cuz they are LEFTISTS
tyrants to the core
Steel and aluminum must be melted down and reformulated to be used in other products. No mining involved, but pollution guaranteed from the smelting and remanufacturing process.
i have been calling EVs stupid
which is a little heavy handed
I think your word, irrational, is more accurate
what is the source for that?
worth repeating
“EV.s can be part of the solution”
Solution to what problem?
It’s what the leftist do. They force people, mandate and dictate!
That is the “abiotic” theory. Scientists still debate whether it is true.
Bingo.
The end run is Hydrogen.
Hydrogen cars do exist, but the fuel delivery network does not exist, yet.
Hydrogen passes of platinum, lets electrons loose. It works. Ad a battery that gives a jolt for times that you need quick acceleration. Emissions, water.
Like the LED bulb 20 years ago and the Flat screen TV. Hydrogen will be big. There are now Hydrogen power plants being built. I think South Korea may be building one.
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