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Media Claims CO2 “Traps Heat”! A Big Lie or A Big Stupid ???
WattsUpWithThat? ^ | 6-28-22 | Jim Steele

Posted on 06/28/2022 6:25:36 AM PDT by gunsmithkat

This video exposes a popular climate myth pushed by the media. Although greenhouse gases warm the earth’s average temperature, CO2 does not trap heat!

Click bait media thrives on fearmongering and publishes misleading illustrations of solar energy entering the earth’s atmosphere, but no energy or little energy escaping back to space. To blame rising CO2 on climate change they must call CO2 a heat trapping gas, so they c

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To: RinaseaofDs
Water vapor is NOT heavier than air, which is why we have clouds [...]

Your statement is slightly misleading.

Water vapor - i.e., gaseous H2O - is a colorless gas, just like carbon dioxide or O2.

Clouds are regions of the atmosphere in which the water vapor has (at least partially) condensed out, forming tiny droplets of liquid H2O which remain suspended in aerosol form.

Normally, we are surrounded by air containing water vapor - but since it's colorless, we don't see it.

The above explanation is likewise an oversimplification, but I think that it comes at least a little bit closer to the truth.

Regards,

21 posted on 06/28/2022 7:07:12 AM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: gunsmithkat

Before John Kerry it was Al Gore. And before him it was Carl Sagan in 1980 on “Cosmos” predicting the earth was in danger from the greenhouse effect which had enveloped the planet Venus.


22 posted on 06/28/2022 7:24:11 AM PDT by MacNaughton
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To: gunsmithkat

Since it comprises 21% of our atmosphere, thank God that it does trap the heat that otherwise would dissipate into space. Perhaps this is what they want - a cold, lifeless, ice - cube that they can control.


23 posted on 06/28/2022 7:25:11 AM PDT by silent majority rising ( )
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To: gunsmithkat

The atmosphere of Mars is 95% CO2: why isn’t Mars boiling hot?


24 posted on 06/28/2022 7:46:21 AM PDT by anoldafvet
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To: anoldafvet

No SYVs. Except for that rover.


25 posted on 06/28/2022 7:47:16 AM PDT by gitmo (If your theology doesn't become your biography, what good is it?)
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To: TexasFreeper2009
Eventually the years will tick by making them all look like the fools that they are.

Or eventually the years will tick by showing them to be remarkably smart . Like a con man who left town with all the money is smart.

26 posted on 06/28/2022 7:59:26 AM PDT by BRL
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To: gunsmithkat
For nearly 40 years I worked in the fruit industry. Specifically, part of my job was to test and maintain 'controlled atmosphere' storage rooms for apples.

We had analyzers to test the storage atmosphere in these room after they were filled with bins of apples and sealed with doors that were bolted shut.

The before atmosphere in the rooms, that is the same air that we breathe, contained .04 percent carbon dioxide.

After the atmosphere was removed and the room was considered in CA (controlled atmosphere) the oxygen level would be held at 1.5% to 2%. The CO2 level was kept to near 0%.

The object of the procedure was to put the apples to sleep, but not kill them, that is make them decay or to have a grape smell and taste.

CO2 is the by-product of the ripening process.

This is a synopsis, although brief, but gives a value to the amount of CO2 that is actually in the air we breathe. Also, the air we breathe is roughly 21% Oxygen and 78% Nitrogen. The remaining 1% contains the CO2 mentioned above.

27 posted on 06/28/2022 8:08:37 AM PDT by Parmy
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To: TexasFreeper2009

CO2 is a greenhouse gas, that’s not debatable, but it is a rather weak one... You can wind up with a runaway greenhouse effect... but the fear mongering that EARTH is on the verge of this is nonsensical.

Venus is an example of a planet that suffered a runaway greenhouse affect due to CO2.. however its atmosphere is 96% CO2 at this point..

Earth on the other hand has such a low concentration of CO2 that it is 4 molecules out of every 10,000 molecules that make up the atmosphere. The doom and gloom we are on some verge of systemic collapse or cascading temperature increase due to CO2 is dubious to say the least.


28 posted on 06/28/2022 8:16:44 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: alexander_busek

The molar mass of H2O is less than the molar mass of O2, which is less than the molar mass of CO2. Unless that changes, CO2 isn’t going to trap heat in the atmosphere.

It will continue to help plants develop in the ocean.

That was the point.


29 posted on 06/28/2022 8:39:34 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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To: gunsmithkat

WUWT bump for the best climate science site on the net!


30 posted on 06/28/2022 8:44:27 AM PDT by Basket_of_Deplorables (Putin is behaving rationally.The war is on Biden and Obama. )
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To: Reno89519

“Surprised some idiot has not connected that there is CO2 in soda and sought to ban it.”

We exhale 10x the CO2 they are complaining about.

And “Dirty Carbon!!!” is bs, too. It’s not soot; it’s CO2, which we put out all the time.


31 posted on 06/28/2022 8:51:17 AM PDT by Basket_of_Deplorables (Putin is behaving rationally.The war is on Biden and Obama. )
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To: z3n

It’s the lifeblood of our economy, is why they are against it. The left means us harm, act accordingly.


32 posted on 06/28/2022 9:10:54 AM PDT by youngidiot (Race is irrelevant to everyone except the racists )
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To: gunsmithkat
... CO2 does not trap heat! ...

It doesn't matter because research by Bud Bromley and Tomer Tamarkin has proved empirically that, on a planetary scale, human-caused CO2 is too minuscule to register. Even IF CO2 is driving global warming (which has yet to be proved), mankind's contribution to the total CO2 concentration is too insignificant to matter.

https://budbromley.blog/2022/05/20/correcting-misinformation-on-atmospheric-carbon-dioxide/

https://pinatubostudy.com/Pinatubo%20Study%20Phase%20I%20Report%20BB%2005%2004%202022%20Rev%205.0.pdf

33 posted on 06/28/2022 9:30:38 AM PDT by Paal Gulli
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To: Parmy
Also, the air we breathe is roughly 21% Oxygen and 78% Nitrogen. The remaining 1% contains the CO2 mentioned above.

The remaining 1% consists chiefly of the noble gas Argon - and a tiny portion of carbon dioxide (about 400 ppm).

Regards,

34 posted on 06/28/2022 9:57:41 AM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: anoldafvet
The atmosphere of Mars is 95% CO2: why isn’t Mars boiling hot?

It is warmer than it would have been otherwise.

Regards,

35 posted on 06/28/2022 9:59:06 AM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: RinaseaofDs
The molar mass of H2O is less than the molar mass of O2, which is less than the molar mass of CO2. Unless that changes, CO2 isn’t going to trap heat in the atmosphere. It will continue to help plants develop in the ocean. That was the point.

Don't understand: Why should CO2 being heavier than air in any way influence its action as a greenhouse gas?

H20 (water vapor) is lighter (less dense) than N2 (constituting 78% of the atmosphere), which in turn is lighter than O2, which in turn is lighter than CO2.

So what? The concentrations of these gases does not vary significantly with respect to altitude (at least, not for several hundred kms). The atmosphere is remarkably well mixed.

So what does the density of carbon dioxide have to do with it being a greenhouse gas?

Regards,

36 posted on 06/28/2022 10:05:13 AM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: alexander_busek
I meant that the 1% left contains the CO2 in the atmosphere, plus being technical all the other gases listed on the periodic chart.

Regards, as well

37 posted on 06/28/2022 12:35:10 PM PDT by Parmy
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To: gunsmithkat

in the ice core records increasing CO2 is shown to occur several centuries AFTER the atmosphere warms.


38 posted on 06/28/2022 5:39:50 PM PDT by arthurus (covfefe \\)
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