Posted on 02/19/2022 5:21:54 AM PST by MtnClimber
Michelle Malkin was at the Denver Back the Blue rally. I believe her people got the cops doing nothing on film. She wrote a column about it.
# Cops are just revenue agents with guns.
^^^^^This.
Their other duty is as enforcers against anything at all that may threaten the State. Their primary job though, is revenue generation, and has been for a long, long time.
The really funny thing about this thread, is that just 10 years or so ago, if it had been posted, the response by the cop worshippers would have been swift and massive. There is still a very small core of diehard bootlickers that remain, but they are few and far between now. Some have even done a complete 180 on the subject, but I suspect those are ongoing personas created by certain governmental organizations.
And if the Nazis would have shut it down, in my world, the person who did it would have been hunted and executed.
Good point. I think 99.99% of us here are for the concept of police, but what they have become is something that is pretty un-American.
I think where we went wrong was the war on drugs.
I think their mindset is that they will enforce any law that is passed no matter if it’s legal or not. Our own police chief said that the majority of the people put those politicians in power to create those laws so it is the will of the people.
I personally have a good friend that was a cop for 17 years. Some of the stories that he tells me is downright terrifying.
We’re in a bad place in this country and it’s just a matter of time before the shooting starts. But even Iraq and Mexico have people willing to sign up to be police. Should be interesting to see what happens here.
Yes, I noticed that also. Because it is getting harder and harder to find much to defend anymore. They have now dishonored their own institutions that were once honorable and respected. We didn’t do this, they did it to themselves. They have exposed themselves as self serving cowards who do not even care about the future of their own Grandchildren let alone of those who support them. Respect is a two way street, and there is no respect being given in return, they want their cake and eat it too. Reality dictates it just doesn’t work this way.
“I personally have a good friend that was a cop for 17 years. Some of the stories that he tells me is downright terrifying.”
And that is it, I have three in my family and many friends who are officers. And until you hear these accounts that come from behind that blueline you really do not know how crazy and crooked it really can be.
There really is a very high number of rotten pickles in that barrel.
Yes Yes and Yes
“Don’t trust power...you know, conservatism.”
This part is where you’re trying to deceive.
No deception there at all. Conservativism is adhering to the Constitutional structure of our nation. The Constitution very explicitly limits the power of the government, because the Founders knew that you can’t trust power, it makes people bad.
It boils down to George Washington:
Government is not reason, it is not eloquence-it is force! Like fire it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master; never for a moment should it be left to irresponsible action.
If you can read that and still revere police you’re on the wrong side. Of everything.
Alright, it now seems more likely that I misunderstood your position. (I point you to the scene in the movie Gladiator when Maximus on the battlefield almost kills a man he thought was an enemy.)
If you’re honestly telling me that worldly power is not trustworthy, then I must agree with you.
An agent of the government has access to two kinds of power: righteousness and unrighteousness.
The “back the blue” movement presumes to trust and revere the righteousness.
But yes, to revere what is unrighteous is foolish.
It’s a matter of identification.
No, an agent of the government has access to one kind of power: the government that he is an agent of.
Now maybe his government is righteous. And maybe for him to enforce are righteous. And maybe he is righteous and enforces his orders in a righteous way.
But maybe one of those things isn’t true. And once one of them isn’t true. None of them are true. And revering the police is giving up your reason. It is forgetting that this force MUST be watched, and is dangerous and should NEVER be blindly trusted.
“No, an agent of the government has access to one kind of power: the government that he is an agent of.”
If a policeman stops a violent criminal from harming an innocent victim, he appears to be accessing righteousness. This is the righteousness revered by the common man.
But it that policeman is not necessarily driven by internal righteousness.
Where he is able to demonstrate internal righteousness would be to disobey unrighteous orders from his employer.
The takeaway point seems to be that government power in and of itself has no righteousness, but that it has access to a transcendent power which is righteous.
He would be ACTING in a righteous manner.
But he could just as easily be using the same force in a way that isn’t. Just look up the many many times cops have shot unarmed people.
The fact is that the police are force. The are the iron fist of government. Now that iron fist might, or might not, be wrapped in the velvet glove of righteousness. But they’re still an iron fist.
Never revere the iron fist.
It’s always good to revere righteousness.
It’s never good to revere unrighteousness.
At no point in human history have police not included some level of unrighteousness. Between individual unrighteous activity like corruption or brutality, or the broader scope of the police answering to an unrighteous government enforcing unrighteous laws. Blanket reverence for the police means revering unrighteousness.
Police are suppose to follow that law... and that’s almost always a good thing. This situation does not come up to the Neuenberg standard...
If cops had been told to shoot and kill unarmed truck drivers I would assume 99% of them would have said, “No, not gonna do that” - and accepted the consequences...
The law that needs to be changed is the one dealing with the Emergencies Act of Canada:
“R.S.C., 1985, c. 22 (4th Supp.)- An Act to authorize the taking of special temporary measures to ensure safety...”
(https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/e-4.5/page-1.html)
Trudeau overstepped his authority because he’s an idiot who got into office by choosing the right father to be born to (born on third thinks he hit a triple)... So the Canadian Parliament needs to put restrictions on the law so some future fool can’t use it to punish citizens he hates... like working class citizens - or reward groups he likes like violent BLM and Antifa.
Police are suppose to follow that law... and that’s almost always a good thing. This is close, but it doesn’t come up to the Nuremberg standard...
If cops had been told to shoot and kill unarmed truck drivers 99% of them would have said, “No, not gonna do that” - and accepted the consequences...
The law that needs to be changed is the one dealing with the Emergencies Act of Canada:
“R.S.C., 1985, c. 22 (4th Supp.)- An Act to authorize the taking of special temporary measures to ensure safety...”
(https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/e-4.5/page-1.html)
Trudeau overstepped his authority because he’s an idiot who got into office by choosing the right father to be born to (born on third thinks he hit a triple)... So the Canadian Parliament needs to put restrictions on the law so some future fool can’t use it to punish citizens he hates... like working class citizens - or reward groups he likes like violent BLM and Antifa.
You live in dream world.
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