[Nateman]

It took awhile for Civilization to take hold. It would form and just as quickly dissolve again. Even after hundreds of years of continuous existence it would still occasionally disappear. We tend to take for granted something which is far from gauranteed.

[SunkenCiv]

And this boom and bust sequence can be attributed to the existence of politicians.

[Veto!]

Apparently, we don’t have a civilization now. All kinds of ferals murdering each other and everyone else.