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To: norsky
I stated my opinion that the original vaccine against the original Covid strain saved lives among the targeted first recipients: the elderly and those with comorbidities. We know this because the people in these groups started to survive the virus.

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maybe, maybe not, that is debatable.

I just saw this and I hesitate to respond because yesterday got a little rough. I apologize for my contributions to that.

I just sincerely do not understand the anger, finger-pointing and ultimatums many on FR (not necessarily here) are throwing at Donald Trump.

I remember watching a man fight tooth and nail to protect us. And for his efforts he was called racist, a xenophobe, a clown. Did he rely on medical advice from Fauci? Sure...he had the 100% backing of Mike Pence. But we also saw him try and sideline Fauci with Jerome Adams.

Did he rely on the CDC and FDA for honesty? Yes. We all did.

He replenished depleted PPEs and built hospital facilities overnight to help blue state cities.

He delivered vaccines in record time that did save lives.

He personally fought death from this virus and committed to making the protocols that saved his life available to all.

Trump is not responsible for what's happened this past year; and we know this sh*t show wouldn't have happened under his watch. So I do not understand why so many are so hellbent on diminishing what Trump accomplished and dragging him into Biden's world of crap.

I just don't understand it. And, again, I apologize if my frustration spilled onto you.

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960 posted on 01/05/2022 8:48:09 AM PST by Right_in_Virginia ( )
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To: Right_in_Virginia

I wore my “BIDEN is NOT my President T Shirt to Frys grocery yesterday. I had 4 people tell me that they loved my shirt and one guy was like an isle away and yelled out Hey, I Love your Shirt! and then others swivelled their heads around to see my shirt@! It was AWESOME!


961 posted on 01/05/2022 8:49:57 AM PST by princess leah
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To: Right_in_Virginia
Trump is not responsible for what's happened this past year; and we know this sh*t show wouldn't have happened under his watch. So I do not understand why so many are so hellbent on diminishing what Trump accomplished and dragging him into Biden's world of crap.

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I definitely am thankful for Trump and all he did, but like all humans, we make mistakes. Some bad advice here, some bad advice there. Hard for a new comer to come into the swamp and get godly councilors, easy for the seasoned ones to take advantage of newbies, after all that is their skill set. Some very bad folks blocked the wise advice, out positioning them. Guys like Fauci and Barr. Why was he not warned about Jan 6. What a trap. Somebody close to Trump leaked the info to the bad guys. Well coordinated trap which many suffer greatly for.

I really want Trump to come back, but if we have the same GOP crew in office it will be the same old S.S.

975 posted on 01/05/2022 9:13:21 AM PST by norsky ( <img src=""></img> <a href=></a>)
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To: Right_in_Virginia

I agree with you about Trump. He’s not a medical professional. Although he is still recommending the vaccine, he doesn’t believe in mandates, it’s an individual choice. And I doubt he would have allowed the deliberate denial of life saving treatments like this regime is doing.
And he wouldn’t have welcomed 2 million untested, unvaccinated sick illegals in, nor the untested Afghans. We wouldn’t have a healthcare worker shortage because he wouldn’t have fired them over the vaccine.

Don’t know if you saw my post from last night.

“They are among the most vaccinated groups, but people 65 and older make up about three-quarters of the nation’s coronavirus death toll.

As the coronavirus pandemic approaches the end of a second year, the United States stands on the cusp of surpassing 800,000 deaths from the virus, and no group has suffered more than older Americans. All along, older people have been known to be more vulnerable, but the scale of loss is only now coming into full view.

Seventy-five percent of people who have died of the virus in the United States — or about 600,000 of the nearly 800,000 who have perished so far — have been 65 or older. One in 100 older Americans has died from the virus. For people younger than 65, that ratio is closer to 1 in 1,400.

Three-quarters of U.S. Covid deaths have been among people 65 and older
In the most recent 100,000 deaths, the proportion of older people has been increasing.

Since vaccines first became available a year ago, older Americans have been vaccinated at a much higher rate than younger age groups and yet the brutal toll on them has persisted. The share of younger people among all virus deaths in the United States increased this year, but, in the last two months, the portion of older people has risen once again, according to data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. More than 1,200 people in the United States are dying from Covid-19 each day, most of them 65 or older.

The pandemic is no longer in the early, dark days of spring 2020, when the mysterious virus was sweeping through nursing homes and assisted living facilities and killing people in staggeringly high numbers, particularly those with pre-existing health issues.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/13/us/covid-deaths-elderly-americans.html

Doesn’t look like the vaccine had any positive impact on elderly.”

I don’t want to get into any arguments, just found info from a non conservative website, since I didn’t see where you had posted backup for your claims.


1,037 posted on 01/05/2022 12:09:33 PM PST by Rusty0604 (" When you can't make them see the light, make them feel the heat." -Ronald Reagan)
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