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To: rx

Re: 126 - If you have facts to support your claim in your initial post, then please share. A cursory search yields theories, speculation, unnamed sources and the like.

My gut feel is to doubt claims made in the absence of facts or other evidence.


147 posted on 07/18/2021 3:25:36 PM PDT by Fury
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To: Fury; reformedliberal; Lurkinanloomin; smileyface; Cats Pajamas; rodguy911; generally
“Anyone got any good conspiracy theories?   All of mine have come true.”

Laying out the facts and supporting them to people not versed in the particulars of the AF1 missile and Q400 case would take a long time. Many of the layers of technologies involved are unknown to the general public. Some of information is classified and could compromise sources and methods. Some of the information is best left to be brought before a court of law, such as a military tribunal. Some "heads would [needlessly] roll" if I laid it all out here. I suspect you may claim to find that an inadequate answer at this time, but it'll just have to do for here and now. OTOH, and FWIW, I am an expert in some of this aviation technology, having been the CEO of several aviation-related companies over three decades. No brag, just fact.

Meanwhile, the media have fed all who would listen lie after lie based on hearsay and corruption. See how you feel free to place the burden of production on individuals like me after you've uncritically swallowed the media narrative whole. You're not the only one, of course. The population has been indoctrinated for many decades to trust the corporate media (the Walter Cronkite (a communist sympathizer or worse) types--See BS, etc.) and heckle those on the right (We The People advocates as if we all were Alex Jones, David Duke or Richard Spencer?

The See BS types brought you the lie of the JFK assassination, that it was the work of a lone gunman. There was no investigative journalism to uncover that evidence showed FBI paid informant (have we heard that phrase reluctantly coming out in 1/6 reports?), Lee Harvey Oswald was in the Texas Book Depository's break room when the shots rang out. There were multiple shooters, at least one of whom shot at the motorcade from the front side of the JFK's convertible limousine.

Did anyone miss the manned Apollo "moon" landings between the summer of 1969 to the December of 1972? They were all lie-filled, brought to you by the co-opted, compliant corporate media.

None of those missions landed anyone on the moon and brought them back.
- Three years before Apollo 11 supposedly landed on the moon, NASA's chief scientist Dr. Wehrner von Braun, said in a training video--even as the Saturn V was nearing testing--that a rocket to bring man to the moon would need to be five times as massive as anything man had yet created. There was no such leap in rocket size or technology between von Braun's '66 pronouncement and the 12/68 Apollo 8 mission.

That's not what your trusted media maintained, though, was it? Over Gemini 8 in 1966 had major disaster in low earth orbit, almost losing its crew, Apollo lost its three crew in a fire on the ground, two shuttle missions lost 14 of the crew members (of the 355 that ever flew) all in low earth orbit, yet six Apollo missions supposedly landed successfully and returned safely from the moon without a loss of life. Yet no investigative journalist from any major media outlet bothered to juxtapose these unlikely-differing outcomes.

One of the most famous photographs from the lunar surface (sic) was the one inset onto the Aldrin glare shield below. At the upper edge of the visor are two bright lights that can only be reasonably explained as stage lighting, yet NASA has made clear that no scene lighting equipment accompanied any of the Apollo missions. Bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzt! (To the right of that is an original Apollo photo, then at its output after editing, that manipulated only its contrast. As should be apparent, looking at the upper right 30% thereof, we've been greatly lied-to!)

 

Shuttle crews that orbited scores of miles above the earth higher than what would be low earth orbit invariably reported the annoying phenomenon of optic nerve stimulation ("flashing orbs of light"), despite having their eyes closed. Somehow, not one of the Apollo astronots reported the phenomenon.

NASA Spokesman Don Petit speciously has said, "[W]e destroyed that [lunar landing] technology and it's a painful process to build it back again." The Orion project technology would have to be the vehicle through which to recreate such technology.

When people implicitly give advantage to the hundreds of billions of dollar-supported liars and criminals in government when considering what the facts are, it's pretty hard for knowledgeable little guys to compete with their presentation. (A very experienced friend of mine quickly interjects at that point that, "[he] knows hundreds of people died or disappeared AND [he] know[s] it's going to happen again!" Should I out such confidential sources for your feigned gratification? Of course not!

Evidence, facts and sound reasoning should always be stubborn things that we're taught in school to use through the scientific method. Unfortunately, academia has been failing us--helping the elites turn your children/grandchildren and mine into cannon fodder--for several decades on that score.

Know--just in case--that I have not for a moment have I ever contemplated suicide.

180 posted on 07/18/2021 6:59:20 PM PDT by rx (Truth will out!)
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