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I am at this point, NEUTRAL regarding the cause and effect of the vaccines on those who have experienced after-vaccine adverse reactions.
But I think you are being unfair to 2aProtectsTheRest by calling him a liar in your response to his post # 5 above. After all, he did provide the CDC link in his post.
Here is what the CDC states ( copy and paste) :
“When evaluating data from VAERS, it is important to note that for any reported event, no cause-and-effect relationship has been established. Reports of all possible associations between vaccines and adverse events (possible side effects) are filed in VAERS. Therefore, VAERS collects data on any adverse event following vaccination, be it coincidental or truly caused by a vaccine. The report of an adverse event to VAERS is not documentation that a vaccine caused the event.”
You might as well call the folks at CDC liars.
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Read post 57.
“The report of an adverse event to VAERS is not documentation that a vaccine caused the event.”
What people say about that quote is not proof that a vaccine DID NOT cause the adverse event either. The way some here talk we should blow off all the reported adverse event and reaction reports. The shear volume of reports in such a short time with the covid vaccines should be concerning. The VAERS report for the all the diphtheria vaccines grouped together shows 482 deaths from DECADES of them being used, many millions more than covid vaccines. A week ago covid vaccines hit 3.38 times that number - in five months.
As Elon Musk would say, “something bogus is going on.”