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To: Kalam

What I just read about the German company saddens me. They are acting like the gestapo, or the commies with gulags used against people that don’t agree with them.

This will not solve anything. In fact it only worsens the problem. In your prior post about creating a model based on the cruise ship, they had an actual death rate of about 1.85%.

Real people dying. Those with real and severe health problems are more likely to succumb if they catch the covid virus. They need help. People should not deny that giving aid/help through any means, whether its personal animosities toward big pharma or a denial of the virus in particular.

Real people dying, People have a right to choose even if the choice is to say, “I think I’ll wait for a while.”
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Kalam, as I have often said, I am for informed consent. The choice to Vax or not Vax should be up to the individual or guardian-not the government or employer.

Regarding the cruise ship, the point I think that was trying to be made was that the Fatality Rate was obviously not as bad as the erroneous models predicting way more deaths. And yet that real experience data was ignored in favor of the more drastic model to justify the lockdowns.

Yes real people die. My dad was in poor health, and during his final years-nearly died every flu season from the flu. He did finally succumb to respiratory illness that was antibiotic resistant.

Quarantining the sick is understandable, and the initial lockdown to try to slow things down while more was learned was also understandable.

However, the continued lockdown of healthy people for a disease that is not much more deadly than the flu is obviously being used to accomplish control for other purposes - as is most evident by the actions of the Governors such as Whitless and Gruesome.

And the concealment and lies about effective prophylactic measures and treatment measures other than just the Vax is criminal. JMHO.


1,306 posted on 01/28/2021 6:52:05 PM PST by greeneyes ( Moderation In Pursuit of Justice is NO Virtue--LET FREEDOM RING)
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To: greeneyes
Greeneyes, I am not in favor of lockdowns either. The closest thing I would consider is maybe to block people from entering a country when it could reduce infections.

The original goal was to slow down the spread so hospitals could have enough time to get prepared for the pandemic. That was turned into illegal lockdowns by demonic rat govenors. They each in their own way have also proven themselves to be guilty of murder. Either by omission or by commission.

I just don't want half truths determining how people decide whether or not the vaccine is a good option for them. I am also on board with the HCQ treatment option for folks who have early diagnosis of covid. (They only recognized and reported the effectiveness of HCQ after President Trump left the White House.)

Remember, quarantines by definition, at least in the past, were for a lockdown of the people who were sick and exposed with a deadly illness, not for the healthy folks. Preventative measures are acceptable to a point, but what has happened here and now is beyond the pale.

1,353 posted on 01/28/2021 9:18:05 PM PST by Kalam (The Qonjurer)
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