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VANITY: "Define your terms" - Marxism, Socialism, Fascism, Communism, Nazism
Vanity ^ | 01-22-2021 | Vanity

Posted on 01/22/2021 6:31:03 AM PST by OKSooner

Open discussion for the purpose of defining of these terms, especially in the classical and modern usage.


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KEYWORDS: communism; fascism; marxism; nazism; socialism
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1 posted on 01/22/2021 6:31:03 AM PST by OKSooner
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To: OKSooner

ALL are de humanizing, totalitarian systems


2 posted on 01/22/2021 6:32:32 AM PST by SMARTY (“If you have ten thousand regulations, you destroy all respect for the law.” Winston Churchill)
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To: OKSooner

They are all shades of totalitarianism.


3 posted on 01/22/2021 6:32:55 AM PST by kosciusko51
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To: OKSooner

That’s like choosing what color socks to wear. Still socks!


4 posted on 01/22/2021 6:33:13 AM PST by Lurkina.n.Learnin (Beware the media industrial complex )
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To: OKSooner


https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=Oz9fX_HfsXA
5 posted on 01/22/2021 6:33:48 AM PST by eyeamok
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To: OKSooner

I don’t due vanities, but...

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That deserves a bump.

5.56mm


6 posted on 01/22/2021 6:34:20 AM PST by M Kehoe (Quid Pro Joe and the Ho ain't my president.)
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To: OKSooner

Choose your weapon: Guns, knives or for you-purses.


7 posted on 01/22/2021 6:34:28 AM PST by DIRTYSECRET (/developement)
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To: SMARTY

LOL, you beat me by 23 seconds.


8 posted on 01/22/2021 6:35:03 AM PST by kosciusko51
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9 posted on 01/22/2021 6:35:34 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: OKSooner

Marxism=Democrat
Socialism=Democrat
Fascism=Democrat
Communism=Democrat
Nazism=Democrat


10 posted on 01/22/2021 6:35:57 AM PST by Spirit of Liberty (Darkness has fallen; it's mourning in America again.)
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Mussolini’s Fascist Maifesto translated to English says:
“Italians! Here is the program of a genuinely Italian movement. It is revolutionary because it is anti-dogmatic, strongly innovative and against prejudice.

For the political problem: We demand:
a) Universal suffrage polled on a regional basis, with proportional representation and voting and electoral office eligibility for women.
b) A minimum age for the voting electorate of 18 years; that for the office holders at 25 years.
c) The abolition of the Senate.
d) The convocation of a National Assembly for a three-years duration, for which its primary responsibility will be to form a constitution of the State.
e) The formation of a National Council of experts for labor, for industry, for transportation, for the public health, for communications, etc. Selections to be made from the collective professionals or of tradesmen with legislative powers, and elected directly to a General Commission with ministerial powers.

For the social problems: We demand:
a) The quick enactment of a law of the State that sanctions an eight-hour workday for all workers.
b) A minimum wage.
c) The participation of workers’ representatives in the functions of industry commissions.
d) To show the same confidence in the labor unions (that prove to be technically and morally worthy) as is given to industry executives or public servants.
e) The rapid and complete systemization of the railways and of all the transport industries.
f) A necessary modification of the insurance laws to invalidate the minimum retirement age; we propose to lower it from 65 to 55 years of age.

For the military problem: We demand:
a) The institution of a national militia with a short period of service for training and exclusively defensive responsibilities.
b) The nationalization of all the arms and explosives factories.
c) A national policy intended to peacefully further the Italian national culture in the world.

For the financial problem: We demand:
a) A strong progressive tax on capital that will truly expropriate a portion of all wealth.
b) The seizure of all the possessions of the religious congregations and the abolition of all the bishoprics, which constitute an enormous liability on the Nation and on the privileges of the poor.
c) The revision of all military contracts and the seizure of 85 percent of the profits therein.”

The translator continues:
“This is what the Fascist party ostensibly stood for. So when you accuse someone of being Fascist, technically, you’re accusing them of (among other things), abolishing the Senate, raising taxes on the rich, giving women the right to vote, establishing a minimum wage, lowering the retirement age to 55, making military service mandatory, nationalizing the weapons industry, and spreading Italian culture around the world.

“Have you ever heard Donald Trump advocate any of those policies? If not, then, strictly speaking, he’s not a Fascist. He may have some other Fascist-esque tendencies… that aren’t uniquely Fascist… but why call him a Fascist when it would be more accurate to just describe his negative tendencies? I don’t like Trump, but calling him a Fascist would require cherry-picking what it means to be one, and that would be intellectually lazy at best and intellectually dishonest at worse.”


11 posted on 01/22/2021 6:38:09 AM PST by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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To: FormerLib

Thank you. This a helpful example of the sort of answers I was hoping for.


12 posted on 01/22/2021 6:39:51 AM PST by OKSooner (IT'S HOWDY DOODY TIME!! HI SENATOR LANKFORD!!!)
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To: OKSooner

“Define your terms” - Marxism, Socialism, Fascism, Communism, Nazism

Easy. That is the existing government at all levels.

Money grubbing, smug, self satisfied turds in ties and skirts.


13 posted on 01/22/2021 6:39:58 AM PST by JayAr36 (My disgust with government is complete.)
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To: Spirit of Liberty

Marxism= Some fake sh^it Karl Marx made up
Socialism= Some fake sh^it Karl Marx made up
Fascism= Some fake sh^it Karl Marx made up
Communism= Some fake sh^it Karl Marx made up
Nazism= Some fake sh^it Karl Marx made up


14 posted on 01/22/2021 6:40:08 AM PST by ecomcon
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To: OKSooner

Fascism is the moral middle ground between souless ‘beggar your neighbor’ unrestrained capitalism and souless ‘beggar everyone but the ruling elite’ communism. Free ownership with profiteering restrained by reasonable regulation. Promotes unity and pride. Permits or encourages religious practice.

Nazism, while claiming to be rooted in Fascism, on the other hand, combines the excesses of socialism and the excesses of nationalism.


15 posted on 01/22/2021 6:41:00 AM PST by PAR35
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To: OKSooner

Pick your poison, All synonyms and replacement definitions for the propaganda keyword “Democracy”.


16 posted on 01/22/2021 6:41:12 AM PST by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: OKSooner

Same term, different words.

All are about collectivism, group think, and adherence to club rules, exclusion and attacks of everyone else.

All need to be destroyed. Such minds cannot be deprogrammed, only eliminated.


17 posted on 01/22/2021 6:42:37 AM PST by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Have!)
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To: OKSooner

They all agree to destroy the following:

1—The free market or Capitalism must be destroyed
2—Rid of private property
3—Every excuse for tyranny is for “the common good”.
4—The state is your god.
5—Any adverse thought is unacceptable and a threat


18 posted on 01/22/2021 6:43:01 AM PST by mikelets456
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To: OKSooner
There are definitions and examples of all of these terms readily available on the net.

I think the real question is this: Does someone think that they are all basically the same or do they believe them to have major differences?

Those who think that they are all basically the same appear to have a rather simplistic and unhelpful view of the world.

Freetraitors tend to say they believe them to all be the same, but then they believe that a completely free market is actually possible in this world and that somehow their libertarianism is less utopian than communism.

19 posted on 01/22/2021 6:46:42 AM PST by who_would_fardels_bear (This is not my current tagline.)
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To: OKSooner

My term is corporatism, but all of these terms apply to one degree or another.


20 posted on 01/22/2021 6:48:14 AM PST by JonPreston (Q: Never have so many, been so wrong, so often)
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