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SCOTUS; WTH Hell "Standing"?
Vanity ^ | December 11, 2020 | myself

Posted on 12/11/2020 5:32:22 PM PST by Michael.SF.

OK, Texas has been shot down on the basis of "Lack of standing"

As I understand the term, it refers to anyone or any case that a court simply does not want to take on; Thus they kick the can down the road.

Can a person, one far more knowledgeable of the law than I, explain this term and how it can be used or abused?

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To: Steve Van Doorn

“US Congress is the final arbiter of all presidential elections NOT the courts. We win when it goes to congress as each state gets one vote. We only need a few states to hold their electoral vote.”

It looks like the only states that might withhold their EC votes are those that Trump won. Biden will still get well over the 270 vote threshold.


21 posted on 12/11/2020 5:46:39 PM PST by Armscor38
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To: Steve Van Doorn

“US Congress is the final arbiter of all presidential elections NOT the courts. We win when it goes to congress as each state gets one vote. We only need a few states to hold their electoral vote.”

It looks like the only states that might withhold their EC votes are those that Trump won. Biden will still get well over the 270 vote threshold.


22 posted on 12/11/2020 5:46:39 PM PST by Armscor38
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To: Michael.SF.

One inconvenient fact to your remains: the 2020 election and how states conduct their planned procedures falls under the “Original Jurisdiction” of the United States Supreme Court.

Alito and Thomas stated this. The other justices said - “We can’t understand how Texas and its citizens are hurt by it. { four states cheating with the consent, approval and encouragement and cover-up by their one-party state and local governments}.

In fewer words “Standing” and fancy words “Cogizant” but they said no other statement than that above.

They said absolutely nothing about whether the corrupt Democrats in those states stole the election or nullified the votes of Trump supporters illegally.


23 posted on 12/11/2020 5:46:51 PM PST by epluribus_2 (He, had the best mom - ever.)
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To: LouieFisk
Your comment makes sense and parallels my understanding of the concept.

But, in this case Texas has been impacted directly, as the man they voted for was denied his office because four states conducted an election using illegal actions.

24 posted on 12/11/2020 5:47:33 PM PST by Michael.SF. (I believe you Tony B.)
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To: Michael.SF.

Under our republican system, the judicial branch can hear only actual, live, controversies between parties. Otherwise, it would be issuing advisory opinions, which is just legislating from the bench.

A live controversy has to be a dispute between parties who have a stake in the outcome, and can allege a real injury.

So, for example, if my state passes a law that infringes on freedom of religion of Hindus, I am not injured, and therefore, I have no standing to sue.

I have said elsewhere that the Texas lawsuit was frivolous, and was put on for show. Texas has no standing to dispute malfeasance in how PA runs its elections. Texas is not injured as a result of the malfeasance.

PDJT, of course, would have standing. But he could not take his case to SCOTUS, because SCOTUS is the highest court of the land, and generally hears only appeals.

But SCOTUS has original jurisdiction to hear lawsuits between states. In other words, when one state sues another, they don’t go to lower courts, they go straight to SCOTUS.

So Texas AG wanted the election case heard, and wanted to bypass the lower courts, so he sued PA, invoking SCOTUS’ original jurisdiction.

I have said earlier, the lawsuit was facially frivolous, and was only filed to placate PDJT’s supporters.


25 posted on 12/11/2020 5:47:36 PM PST by God_Country_Trump_Guns
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To: All

In New Amerika, NO ONE has ‘standing’ when it comes to trying to legally stand against the Deep State, Uniparty, Corrupt, Swampy, Scum, Cabal


26 posted on 12/11/2020 5:47:55 PM PST by LegendHasIt
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To: socalgop
Well-God forbid you actually put forth evidence and facts when you say you have evidence and facts and driving people to near violence over the results of an election.

So-what you’re saying is-you can go before a camera or on Twitter and state it’s a fact(!) but it’s a different story when perjury it’s a risk? Hmmm. Imagine that.

27 posted on 12/11/2020 5:49:01 PM PST by NELSON111 (Congress: The Ralph Wolf and Sam Sheepdog show. Theater for sheep. My politics determines my "hero")
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To: struggle
SECESSION NOW IS OUR ONLY OPTION !!!

If we have no standing in a national election,we have no business being in that union.

28 posted on 12/11/2020 5:49:23 PM PST by SanchoP ("Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." )
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Looks like it's almost Ammo Box time.
29 posted on 12/11/2020 5:50:07 PM PST by glaseatr (Father of a Marine, Uncle of SGT Adam Estep. A Co. 2/5 Cav. KIA Thurs April 29, 2004 Baghdad Iraq)
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To: Theodore R.

If this was about Bush or Biden or Obama, how much you want to bet they would have ruled differently?


30 posted on 12/11/2020 5:52:21 PM PST by hsmomx3
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To: Michael.SF.

Perhaps William Barr should have filed suit to enforce Federal law.


31 posted on 12/11/2020 5:52:52 PM PST by aimhigh (THIS is His commandment . . . . 1 John 3:23)
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To: Michael.SF.

The ruling classes have picked the President. The people of the United States do not have standing.


32 posted on 12/11/2020 5:52:53 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: LouieFisk

Maybe I’m wrong but that doesn’t seem to be a good example.

The voters of TX are harmed because the voters of PA, GA, etc weren’t playing by the rules they had already established by the constitution that governs us all.


33 posted on 12/11/2020 5:53:13 PM PST by Aria (- )
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To: Theodore R.

And not a one of the nine would stand up for Trump and correct election fraud. Forget the Supreme Court. Trump worked so hard to get the three justices confirmed, and they all betray him.

Two Judges voted to hear the case Alito and Clarence Thomas!!


34 posted on 12/11/2020 5:53:28 PM PST by tallyhoe
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To: Michael.SF.

“But, in this case Texas has been impacted directly, as the man they voted for was denied his office because four states conducted an election using illegal actions.”

I think there might be a catch-22 in there, though. The court would have to find the actions as illegal first before granting standing.


35 posted on 12/11/2020 5:53:45 PM PST by LouieFisk
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To: Steve Van Doorn

👎


36 posted on 12/11/2020 5:53:46 PM PST by hawkaw
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To: Michael.SF.

What this means is there’s a bully on the street and mommy isn’t going to go out there to fight for you. You’ll have to do it yourself.

There is a list of positives that can be gleaned from this.


37 posted on 12/11/2020 5:54:20 PM PST by lurk ( )
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To: Michael.SF.

Only those that support perverts and baby killers have standing.


38 posted on 12/11/2020 5:55:25 PM PST by Karl Spooner
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To: Michael.SF.

Lacking standing means that Texas doesn’t represent all of the voters who voted for President who had their votes disenfranchised by massive democrat fraud tilting the vote counts in Biden’s favor. At least, that’s what the robed jesters think. They should have had a clue that they should rule on the fraud when Texas’ suit was joined by states from nearly half of the country as well as senators and representatives from the various states that had democrat SOS and/or governor, with two of those states being those named as defendants in the lawsuit. History will not be kind to the robed jesters who proved that highly educated people can still act stupid.


39 posted on 12/11/2020 5:57:23 PM PST by eeriegeno
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To: BipolarBob

Sure glad Trump stood the test for Kavanaugh and Barrett. What cowards.


40 posted on 12/11/2020 5:57:42 PM PST by bray (Pray for President Trump)
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