2020 Formula 1 Gulf Air Bahrain Grand Prix - LIVE THREAD

11/26/2020 | Chode

[Chode]

Bahrain International Circuit

First Grand Prix

2004

Number of Laps

57

Circuit Length

5.412km

Race Distance

308.238 km

Lap Record

1:31.447 Pedro de la Rosa (2005)

[Lockbox]

Ok in a little bit we will know the actual G Force number. It is amazing the forces the human body can survive.

There was a discussion of the 10 second limit to get out of the car with the Halo. Guess they did not think about a driver who was either knocked out or stunned for a moment. The impact was such a major impact for the brain that the driver was at lease stunned and then he had to deal with the fire. GREAT that he got out so quickly. GREAT for the Halo!

[Chode]

i am sick to death of that hambone RAT!

[Chode]

wth thought it was a good idea to put that tire wall there?

lucky boy, slagged the car bad

[Chode]

Race

Bahrain IC, 29 November 2020

= Fastest Lap

Rank	Driver	Number	Team	Grid	Pits	Fastest Lap	Race Time	PointsPts
11	Lewis HamiltonHAM	4444	Mercedes	11	33	1:32.8641:32.864	1:34:01.8291:34:01.829	2525
22	Max VerstappenVER	3333	Red Bull	33	44

fastest overall lap 1:32.0141:32.014

1.254 behind+1.254	1919
33	Alexander AlbonALB	2323	Red Bull	44	33	1:33.6841:33.684	8.005 behind+8.005	1515
44	Lando NorrisNOR	44	McLaren	99	33	1:33.5881:33.588	11.337 behind+11.337	1212
55	Carlos Sainz JnrSAI	5555	McLaren	1515	33	1:33.4111:33.411	11.787 behind+11.787	1010
66	Pierre GaslyGAS	1010	AlphaTauri	88	22	1:34.8171:34.817	11.942 behind+11.942	88
77	Daniel RicciardoRIC	33	Renault	66	33	1:32.8271:32.827	19.368 behind+19.368	66
88	Valtteri BottasBOT	7777	Mercedes	22	44	1:33.3521:33.352	19.680 behind+19.680	44
99	Esteban OconOCO	3131	Renault	77	33	1:34.3541:34.354	22.803 behind+22.803	22
1010	Charles LeclercLEC	1616	Ferrari	1212	33	1:33.6251:33.625	1 lap behind+1 lap	11
1111	Daniil KvyatKVY	2626	AlphaTauri	1010	33	1:34.1411:34.141	1 lap behind+1 lap	00
1212	George RussellRUS	6363	Williams	1414	33	1:35.0421:35.042	1 lap behind+1 lap	00
1313	Sebastian VettelVET	55	Ferrari	1111	33	1:33.8611:33.861	1 lap behind+1 lap	00
1414	Nicholas LatifiLAT	66	Williams	2020	33	1:34.5911:34.591	1 lap behind+1 lap	00
1515	Kimi RaikkonenRAI	77	Alfa Romeo	1717	33	1:33.5731:33.573	1 lap behind+1 lap	00
1616	Antonio GiovinazziGIO	9999	Alfa Romeo	1616	33	1:34.5361:34.536	1 lap behind+1 lap	00
1717	Kevin MagnussenMAG	2020	Haas	1818	44	1:35.2411:35.241	1 lap behind+1 lap	00
not classifiedNC	Sergio PerezPER	1111	Racing Point	55	33	1:33.6291:33.629	did not finish completed 53 lapsDNF (53)	00
not classifiedNC	Lance StrollSTR	1818	Racing Point	1313	11	not available-	did not finish completed 2 lapsDNF (2)	00
not classifiedNC	Romain GrosjeanGRO	88	Haas	1919	00	not available-	did not finish completed 0 lapsDNF (0)	00

[nascarnation]

Can’t believe these bilion dollar tracks are still using 1930s era Armco barriers with wedge nosed open wheel cars. Even our old 5/8 oval here in Indy has SAFERs.

[BBB333]

“I am sick to death of that hambone RAT!”

ME TWO!

On a (silly) lighter note:

Rumors are that if Roman G is not 100% cleared by the F1 Medical Team then Guenther Steiner is considering Vince & Larry, the world famous ‘Crash Test Dummies,’ to drive the #8 Haas in the upcoming Abu Dhabi F1 race...

[Chode]

LOL... let him set it out, not like he’s accomplished much anyway

[Lockbox]

Considering Grosjean's 746kg car hit the barriers at 221km/h, with an estimated force of more than 50G, there was an awful lot of energy to get rid of.

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/what-aftermath-photos-reveal-about-grosjean-escape/4918717/?ic_source=home-page-widget&ic_medium=widget&ic_campaign=widget-1

Thank God for the Halo, I do not want to even mention what would of happened without the Halo.

[bobby.223]

So you and I won’t miss the little blm loving thug the last 2 races of this year’s season? Nope! (He is OUT for both races with a recent covid-19 positive test.)

[Chode]

[bobby.223]

And blm and antifa have a sad today! Their thug is out! Then we got to see the homo/fag/tranny/lesbo rainbow ‘colors’ plastered on the medical car along with the: ‘We Race as One’ shit written on it also. F1 is this close to being toast as far as I am concerned Chode, sad to say after all these long years as a big fan.

[Chode]

i’m right behind you

[nascarnation]

They would have been calling him “shorty”

[mabarker1]

MANAMA: French Formula One driver said he thought of Niki Lauda’s fiery crash and willed himself to get out of his burning Haas for the sake of his children, as he “saw death coming” after his accident in Sunday’s Bahrain Grand Prix.
“I saw my visor all orange, the flames around me, and the accident of Niki Lauda came to mind I didn’t want to end up like that,” the 34-year-old father of three told TF1 and LCI from his Bahrain hospital room in an interview reproduced on the French broadcasters’ websites.

“I had to get out, for my children. I saw death coming, I had no other option but to get out of there,” added Grosjean in the comments translated from French.

Never thought that a few body weight squats would make me happy. Body recovering well from the impact . Hopefully s… https://t.co/XxqCNXLBh4

— Romain Grosjean (@RGrosjean) 1606825624000
Grosjean’s Haas car careered off the track at high speed on the opening lap of the floodlit Bahrain Grand Prix. The car speared through the protective barriers lining the track in a 53G impact that split it in half and burst into flames.
The Frenchman, who had remained conscious throughout, miraculously extracted himself from the blazing wreckage before being helped to safety by fire marshals and FIA doctors.

The ‘halo’ that saved F1 driver Romain Grosjean’s life

On Sunday, F1 witnessed its worst accident in a long time in terms of just how spine chilling the crash was. But the credit for Romain Grosjean having survived the horrific crash is being given to the halo system, which was made mandatory by the FIA from the 2018 season onwards as part of their

Images of the burning car were evocative of a more dangerous era of Formula One such as when three-time world champion Lauda was administered the last rites after suffering severe burns and scorched lungs in an accident at the 1976 German Grand Prix.
The Austrian, who died last year at the age of 70, was back in his Ferrari just six weeks later, his wounds still bandaged and healing.

An update from Romain himself. Pleased to see you’re in good spirits! We hope you make a speedy recovery � https://t.co/njnjjH4GBi

— Haas F1 Team (@HaasF1Team) 1606680431000
Grosjean suffered little more than burns to the top of his hands which he jokingly referred to in the interview as “Mickey Mouse” hands because of the bandages swaddling them.
He said the accident felt like a “rebirth” that would mark him for life.
Grosjean, who is set to be discharged from hospital on Wednesday after spending an extra night there, is set to leave Formula One next season. He will be replaced by Haas reserve Pietro Fittipaldi for the upcoming Sakhir Grand Prix.
However, Grosjean is determined to return for the season-ending Abu Dhabi race on Dec. 13 which is likely to be his swan song.
“Even though it is complicated for those close to me, it is a need for me to get back into a Formula One car, to see where I am, if I can continue to drive,” he said.

[mabarker1]

[mabarker1]

!?Half-breed has the chicom plague?!

[Chode]

lucky boy

[Bob434]

watching the incident over and over again, it looked to me that his car ripped in 1/2, and he and the front end squeezed through rails of the barrier- how he ever survived is beyond me- an angel must have been riding alongside him-

[Bob434]

[[F1 is this close to being toast as far as I am concerned]]

Yep Same here- NASCAR Too!

[mabarker1]

Yes, He most certainly had God watching over Him in that wreck.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/sports/racing/top-stories/romain-grosjean-saw-death-coming-in-fiery-bahrain-gp-crash/articleshow/79516173.cms (video & Pics here)

The ‘halo’ that saved F1 driver Romain Grosjean’s life
NOVEMBER 30, 2020

Haas F1’s Romain Grosjean during the qualifying session for the Bahrain Formula One Grand Prix. (AFP Photo)
There are some things in life that we tend to resist and dislike at first, only to realise later just how crucial they can be for us. Sometimes it can actually be a matter of life and death.
Just ask 34-year-old French F1 driver who currently races for the Haas F1 team.
On Sunday, F1 witnessed its worst accident in a long time in terms of just how spine chilling the crash was. Grosjean’s car veered right as the cars jostled for an early advantage on the opening lap of the Bahrain GP. One of his back wheels clipped the front of Daniil Kvyat’s Alpha Tauri and his car rammed straight into a crash barrier. According to reports, Grosjean braked when the car was going at approximately 215 kmph and the estimated impact speed was 200 kmph. The impact was measured at a force of 53G.

The impact was so intense that it split Grosjean’s car into two. Since the fuel leaked out, the car immediately caught fire and the raging fireball engulfed Grosjean in his cockpit. He was in the fireball was almost 30 seconds. The Frenchman though didn’t panic and managed to extricate himself from the burning debris and hurled himself onto the track, climbing over the burning hot barrier, with the help of the Chief Medical officer and the Medical car driver. According to the BBC, the last time a F1 car split into two was in Monaco way back in 1991.
Grosjean escaped, miraculously, with minor burns on his fingers, possibly from when he touched the barrier while trying to jump over trackside. He didn’t have a single broken bone in his body and actually managed to walk to the ambulance. 1996 World champion Damon Hill said - “It’s a miracle that he (Grosjean) is alive.”

We are so thankful that Romain Grosjean was able to walk away from this. We did not need a reminder of the bravery… https://t.co/DGu5mySlY0

— Formula 1 (@F1) 1606671597000
Had Grosjean not managed to extricate himself from his car though, pulling him out of that raging fireball would have been extremely difficult.
But the credit for him having survived the horrific crash is being given to the halo system, which was made mandatory by the FIA from the 2018 season onwards as part of their efforts to protect the driver’s head in the event of a crash and from flying debris.

Medics attend to Haas F1’s Romain Grosjean after a crash at the Bahrain Formula One Grand Prix. (AFP Photo)
Later, from his hospital bed Grosjean said - “I wasn’t for the halo some years ago, but [now] I think it’s the greatest thing that we’ve had in Formula One and without it I wouldn’t be able to speak to you today.”
In 2017, while the halo was being tested, Grosjean had said that the he “hated it” and it made him “feel sick”.

An update from Romain himself. Pleased to see you’re in good spirits! We hope you make a speedy recovery � https://t.co/njnjjH4GBi

— Haas F1 Team (@HaasF1Team) 1606680431000
WHAT IS THE HALO SYSTEM?
Very simply, the halo is a titanium structure which is mounted on the car’s cockpit. It is fused to the frame of the car in three places and is designed to protect the driver’s head in the event of a crash and/or from flying debris and projectiles.
The concept was first proposed by Mercedes in 2015, with the FIA looking for most effective ways to provide head protection for drivers. The initial version of the halo was made of steel. This did well in tests where a 20kg tyre was fired at it at a speed of 225 kmph. In 2016, a lighter and stronger version made of titanium was used in trials.
The version, which was tested in 2017 weighs about 9 kilograms. That’s the weight of the halo itself. Then there are the mountings, which is approximately around 6kgs more.
The titanium version made its full F1 debut in 2018. And was also introduced in F2, F3 & Formula E. The use of the halo was seen to improve the survival rate of the driver by 17%.
The structure is not manufactured by the teams, but by an FIA approved manufacturer. They are then mounted on the cars by the teams themselves and crash tested.

REACTIONS AFTER GROSJEAN’S CRASH
The halo was not really welcomed with open arms by the teams and the drivers. Someone like reigning World champion Lewis Hamilton was also opposed to the idea.
The basic problems with the halo were seen to be visibility and aesthetics. Also it made the cars heavier. This also meant that the teams needed to lose weight from their car designs to mount the halo system on their cockpits.

Romain Grosjean is pictured on a screen escaping his crash during the Bahrain Formula One Grand Prix. (Getty Images)
Those hurdles however were crossed.
After Grosjean’s crash, the halo is being hailed as a life saver, quite literally.
Hamilton after the halo had been tested by Ferrari in Barcelona in 2016 had said that it was “the worst looking modification in Formula 1 history”
On Monday, Hamilton lauded the FIA’s efforts in trying to make the sport safer, saying - “I don’t know what Gs he pulled, but I am just so grateful that the halo worked.....It shows what an amazing job Formula One has done, the FIA has done, for him (Grosjean) to be able to walk away from something like that.”
Fire marshals put out a fire on Romain Grosjean’s car during the Bahrain Formula One Grand Prix. (AFP Photo)
Alan van der Merwe, the driver of the F1 medical car, who was one of the first responders after Grosjean’s crash said - “I’ve never seen that much fire in 12 years. It took a little while to process what was going on but then Romain started to get out of the car himself, which was amazing...Everything worked hand in hand today: the halo, the barriers, the seat belt. Without one of the things it could’ve been a different outcome.’’
Red Bull F1 driver Max Verstappen meanwhile said - “I think the halo saved his (Grosjean’s) life. When it came onto the cars I was quite critical about it and it looked ugly. But you can’t say anything about the safety because today it definitely saved Roman.’’
Some reports have claimed that there was a halo shaped hole visible in the crash barrier after Grosjean’s car went through it.
Grosjean hopefully will recover soon from his burns and be back in a car cockpit. There’s no doubt he will now see the halo in a new light.
Romain Grosjean’s car is removed after a crash during the Bahrain Formula One Grand Prix. (AFP Photo)