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To: RomanSoldier19

Switching from a car that is 100% powered by oil ... to a car that is 100% powered by coal.


6 posted on 10/20/2020 3:15:26 PM PDT by CaptainMorgantown
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To: CaptainMorgantown
BINGO!

13 posted on 10/20/2020 3:23:27 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: CaptainMorgantown

...or gasoline, or hydro, or nuclear, or wind, or solar, or propane, or...


19 posted on 10/20/2020 3:34:53 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (Interesting how those so interested in workERS are so disinterested in workING.)
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To: CaptainMorgantown
Switching from a car that is 100% powered by oil ... to a car that is 100% powered by coal.

Brilliant!

32 posted on 10/20/2020 5:05:38 PM PDT by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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To: CaptainMorgantown

Lies!

https://www.eia.gov/energyexplained/electricity/electricity-in-the-us.php

Only 23% of the entire grid is coal. In states such as Texas we get well over 50% from clean burning natural gas and another 18% from clean nuclear and there are times where the entire Texas grid is 100% wind powered it happens a few times a year when the wind kicks up in west Texas all other power plants shut down and curtail for wind and solar by law except for the two nuclear plants they ramp down slowly or steam dump while maintaining the frequency control of the ERCOT grid. I’m an energy consultant. More than 75% of the US grid power has an emissions output per Gigajoule an order of magnitude less than an internal combustion engine. This says nothing of the fact that a electric vehicle is three to four times more efficient with using those joules to move mass over distance. A Tesla model S uses 250 watt hours to go one mile that is the equivalent of 137.6 miles per gallon on a higher heating value of 34.4 kilowatts per gallon of octane. E10 has less so I already gave the gasoline an advantage. No internal combustion engine powered vehicle of comparable size can touch 130+ mpge. 250 watt hours is also the round trip energy useage after being stored in the battery packs. Physics favors a second law process such as electricity and chemical storage over a third law heat driven process cannot cheat Isaac Newton. Natural gas combined cycle plants have a net carnot efficiency of over 60% and the grid loss are 3_5% the gas well to the wheels emissions of Nox, Sox, particulates, and carbon soot for a GTCC plant vs the tail pipe of a car is a joke to even compare them the scrubbers on the gas turbines are again much more effective. Nuclear releases none of those emissions nor does hydro, wind, or solar.

One KG of uranium fuel will generate 45 megawatt days of power...45MwD*24hr*1000kw=1,080,000 kWh in a EV that means 1,080,000×4 miles per kWh = 4,320,000 miles from ONE kg of uranium fuel. Or 432 miles for 10000 electric vehicles which works out to 62 miles per day over 7 days. Only few people commute more than 50 miles round trip per day. In fact 85% of all Americans commute less than 40 miles round trip per day. Food for thought one KG of 4.5% low enrichment uranium costs $1200 in 2020 dollars. In btu equivalent of the higher heating value to octane its the equivalent of 3.82 CENTS per gallon of gasoline.

$1200 kgLeu / (45MwD kg * 24hr * 1000Kw ) * 34.4 kWh gallon gas equivalent HHV = $ 0.0382222222 x 100 to convert to cents = 3.82 cents per gallon.

Nuclear energy plus electric vehicles means gasoline at a raw energy cost of 4 cents a gallon there’s 42 US gallon to an international barrel of oil so nuclear power is equal to oil at $1.62 Bbl nothing can touch that cost wise in raw fuel costs alone. Adding in waste disposal by federal law the fee at 0.1 US cent per kWh doesn’t change it much.

Electric vehicles and nuclear power are the future that much is certain as soon as battery technology hits $100kWh in storage costs the total cost per mile over the 200000 mile lifespan of the vehicle is 3 cents per mile in pack costs with access to energy at retail of 8 cents per kWh is 2 cents per mile in energy costs. 5 cent per mile in energy plus storage is equal to $1.5 gal of octane at 30 mpg which a large 4 door sedan equal in size and weight to a model S should average.

Analysis shows Tesla has crossed $127 $/kwh and is heading to $100 soon. They warranty their packs for 8 years unlimited miles and commercial Teslas have already gone 500,000 miles plus on their current pack technology. The 2022 model S and 3 both will have million mile packs targeted specifically at commercial ride share vehicles and transport.

www.forbes.com/sites/greatspeculations/2020/01/13/how-battery-costs-impact-teslas-margins-an-interactive-analysis/amp/%3famp_js_v=0.1&usqp=mq331AQFKAGwASA%253D#ampf=


42 posted on 10/31/2020 10:50:05 PM PDT by JD_UTDallas ("Veni Vidi Vici")
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