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To: imardmd1
"In supporting efforts like "Juneteenth," and "peaceful protesting" against way overstated "police brutality," and toleration of BLM, you are only magnifying the effort to tear down our Constitution which defines the independence our Founders have bequeathed their progeny, whether literal or spiritual."

You have misstated my position by adding in things I did not say. I never said anything about the protests, about the demonization of the police or of tolerating BLM. My supporting a Juneteenth holiday has nothing to do whatsoever with those ideas. I'm sure there are those who are rioting, who demonize the police, who are pro-BLM who are in favor of the holiday. My support for it goes no further than what I stated in my previous post. Period.

As for tearing down the Constitution, I don't think acknowledging the past injustice of slavery and its subsequent termination does anything of the sort. Another poster suggested instead of a Juneteenth holiday, perhaps a celebration of the 13th Amendment is more in order. Until that amendment was passed, enslaved Blacks had no such enjoyment of the Constitutional rights that you rightly laud. And it is because of the "irreconcilable attitude" of which you speak that my heart was burdened to consider how an acknowledgement of this momentous (and, it would seem, deeply hurtful) past event might well lead to the kind of reconciliation that would lead to freeing us all from the present slavery we, both Black and White, currently endure.

I'm not for shining shoes, like Mr. Cathy over at Chik-Fil-A. I'm not for reparations or giveaways of any kind. I'm not for approving of destructive behavior/rioting. I'm not for anything other than for a genuine reconciliation. If that's what it means to be on a high horse, then, "Hi-yo, Silver!" True reconciliation is the path that leads to peace.

84 posted on 06/19/2020 12:12:21 PM PDT by MarDav
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To: MarDav
Thank you for further expressing your view.. Like yourself, I have never supported any kind of behavior that neglects the basic rights with which the God of the Bible (not Allah) has bestowed on each of His created eternal human souls.

As to personal relationships with the humans around me, I have not seen the hue of one's epidermal layern to be a source of distinction of value of the person's body, soul, or spirit, or that it should be a bar to warm and close fellowship.<

On the other hand, it has been obvious to me that the ghettoization of our inner cities has led to a multitude of problems, giving rise to a certain level of the need for a special awareness of the behaviors of people living in and governed by the type of culture prevalent there. The statistics seem to show that the policing of the cultures in these areas to be effective requires a suspicious alertness and firmness of enforcement that those on the receiving end are likely to chafe at or reject. It also makes those needing discipline overreact and call it a return to slavery.

In that vein, Does the attitude of inventing new holidays like Juneteenth bring reconciliation? Or do they bring back undercurrents of the old adversarial relationships? Or is it a moment of thanking the overwhelming sector of non-black citizens that put down the practice of enslavement with deadly force and irreversible modification to the Constitution?

When I hear the Black community thank the other freemen vocally and with commensurate behavior consistent with their long-established liberty, then I will rejoice with them. It is the broadly inclusive reenactment of July 4 that made it slowly but inexorably possible, given the situation existing in the Americas at the time of its appearance in history when the governed were first classed as citizens, not subjects. It was at a time when free black citizens did own other black souls as chattels, and not a few of them as major slaveholders.

88 posted on 06/19/2020 6:30:47 PM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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