http://perfauto.tripod.com/images/ukrainian_international_ur-psr_shoot_down.jpg
one guy on other thread says
8,000 ft at 275mph, definite surface to air missile.
looks like the Iranians shot down their own plane. Ukrainian ... always curiouser & curiouser!
See this little vid from planefags:
https://twitter.com/GodandCountry11/status/1214763389991428097