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Why Vladimir Putin is angry at Poland
BBC ^ | 26 Dec 2019 | Vitaly Shevchenko

Posted on 12/27/2019 12:07:48 PM PST by CondoleezzaProtege

As top Russian officials were summing up the results of 2019, one subject stood out in President Vladimir Putin's pronouncements: Poland and its role in World War Two.

Over the past seven days, he mentioned it no fewer than five times at key meetings - some of which had little to do with history or even foreign policy. In an unusual outburst at a Defence Ministry board on 24 December, he described the Polish ambassador to Nazi Germany as "scum and an anti-Semite pig".

Two hours later, he brought the subject up again at a meeting with parliamentary leaders. State Duma speaker Vyacheslav Volodin thanked Putin and demanded an apology from Poland.

Vladimir Putin's criticism of Poland follows a European Parliament resolution which blames both the Soviet Union and Nazi Germany for the outbreak of World War Two.

The USSR's victory in World War Two is one of the most venerated pillars of state ideology, and more than 70 years on it is still celebrated with much fanfare and bombast every year. It is also a key way for President Putin to legitimise himself and his expansionist foreign policy as a successor to the Soviet empire. So the Kremlin sees any criticism of what is known in Russia as the Great Victory as an attack on itself.

None of which is, of course, reason enough for Poland to accept the accusations, which it has described as "false narratives".

They are a highly sensitive subject in Poland, which outlawed suggestions of complicity in Nazi war crimes in 2018. Following an outcry, the law was softened to make them a civil, not a criminal offence.

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.com ...


TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: europeanunion; nato; poland; putin; russia; vladimirputin; vladtheimploder; wwii
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1 posted on 12/27/2019 12:07:48 PM PST by CondoleezzaProtege
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

Russia never forgave Poland for the 1920 “Miracle on the Vistula”.

Stalin had craved for revenge since then. Of course, on the other side, Hitler also craved revenge for losing Danzig, the Corridor and Pomerania.


2 posted on 12/27/2019 12:12:05 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege
European Parliament resolution which blames both the Soviet Union and Nazi Germany for the outbreak of World War Two.

What was the point of this? How about focusing a bit more on current events...like blaming Andrea Merkel for the Islamic invasion of Western Europe?

3 posted on 12/27/2019 12:12:46 PM PST by montag813
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

Is he?


4 posted on 12/27/2019 12:13:59 PM PST by NorseViking
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To: montag813

If I had my way, I would have thrown in France, as well, for The Versailles Treaty.


5 posted on 12/27/2019 12:14:01 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

Molotov. Ribbentrop. Pact.

FU Pooty Toots. Your heartthrob Stalin cut a deal with Hitler to split Poland in two. But of course you know that, a-hole.


6 posted on 12/27/2019 12:14:58 PM PST by Mr. Rabbit
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To: montag813

It is easier to fight over things long gone than to solve real issues.


7 posted on 12/27/2019 12:15:02 PM PST by NorseViking
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

Uhhh, because Russians are always angry at Poland?


8 posted on 12/27/2019 12:16:52 PM PST by MuttTheHoople
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To: Mr. Rabbit

German Military Emissaries attending the May Day March, 1941, six weeks before Operation Barbarossa

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAfSrBMuXI8


9 posted on 12/27/2019 12:18:11 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege
The truth hurts. The Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact sealed Poland's fate and set off WWII. Hitler knew he could invade Poland with no Russian interference because he gave them a piece of pre-War Poland.

What is today little known is the Russians kept their piece after the war. To add insult to injury, they made the allegedly independent post-War Polish state a Russian puppet and communist dictatorship for 30 years.

Oh, and let's not forget the Katyn Massacre, where the Russians murdered over 20,000 Polish officers and tried to tag it on the Germans.

Yes, the Germans double-crossed the Russians and invaded Russia after gobbling up most of the rest of Europe. Yes, the Russians eventually won a glorious victory and truth be told were largely responsible for the defeat of the Nazis on the ground. But let's not forget the facts Putin finds inconvenient.

10 posted on 12/27/2019 12:18:39 PM PST by colorado tanker
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To: MuttTheHoople

A Polish soldier encounters a German and a Russian, which does he shoot first?

The German, of course, business before pleasure.


11 posted on 12/27/2019 12:18:45 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: montag813

What was the point of this? How about focusing a bit more on current events...like blaming Andrea Merkel for the Islamic invasion of Western Europe?


The point is pushing back against one party state fascist Russia and it’s designs on the lands of the former USSR. Some which were stolen at gun point, like Crimea was recently, in a pact with Nazi Germany. It’s not a minor issue with places like Narva, Estonia being 90% ethnic Russian.


12 posted on 12/27/2019 12:20:26 PM PST by lodi90
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“It is also a key way for President Putin to legitimise himself and his expansionist foreign policy as a successor to the Soviet empire.”

This is a BBC article. It is crap agitprop for the globalist EU. Yes this is a blind spot for Russians who don’t want to face the full evil of the USSR (not easy to live with for many younger Russians). But - if Russia wanted to ‘expand’ they could do so tomorrow and no one could reasonably stop them.


13 posted on 12/27/2019 12:22:47 PM PST by TheTimeOfMan (The Eloi unexpectedly protected the Morlocks from rogue Eloi as they themselves prepared to be eaten)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

Because Poland exists, that’s why.


14 posted on 12/27/2019 12:23:27 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: colorado tanker

Also, don’t forget that the Russians allowed the Nazis to devastate the Polish resistance in Warsaw before the Nazis were forced to retreat. This inaction allowed the Russians to install their own puppet regime in Poland.


15 posted on 12/27/2019 12:23:52 PM PST by kosciusko51
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

OK, Vlad ole buddy ole pal-— NOW, please explain the FOUNDER of your lifetime employer before becoming a permanent criminal totalitarian dictator— the founder and leader of the first two Soviet state-security organizations, the Cheka and the OGPU, who established a secret police for the post-revolutionary Soviet government.

Felix Dzerzhinksy— a Bolshevik Born into Polish nobility, from 1917 until his death in 1926.

He was one of the architects of the Red Terror, and removal of the Tsar-Loyal Cossacks (who were definitely anti-Polish, and thus Putin is expressing— amazingly a Cossack point of view against the survivors of Stalin and Hitler’s “graces” of annihilation.Anti Polish, because they are “anti-Semites”- sure, that will wash, Vlad).

A Polish Bolshevik Leninist was your Founder ole Iron Felix—(Lenin of course was not at all anti-Semite— what bullcrap, and Stalin, being a Georgian orthodox thug murderer and bank robber— naw, he wasn’t anti-Semite... naw). What utter rubbish from Vlad (he must be making pals with the Rothschilds who stole the Romanov treasury and took it to their Bank of England).


16 posted on 12/27/2019 12:27:17 PM PST by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: colorado tanker
Russians....largely responsible for the defeat of the Nazis on the ground.

I prefer to give credit where credit is due. Thus, it must also be acknowledged that Russia only managed it with immense sacrifice and huge amounts of American aid. Military supplies, trucks, tanks, aircraft and food. Even General Zhukov said that Spam saved the Soviet army from starvation.

17 posted on 12/27/2019 12:31:10 PM PST by jimtorr
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To: lodi90

In case if you didn’t know which is most likely the case Narva was annexed by Russia from Sweden in September, 1704.
The residents swore allegiance to Russia on the main square on September 11 and were Russian citizens since that time.
That’s more than 200 years before Estonia emerged as a country.


18 posted on 12/27/2019 12:31:13 PM PST by NorseViking
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To: kosciusko51

And then after the war, hunted down members of the AK.

Including this great man.

Witold Pilecki
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Witold_Pilecki


19 posted on 12/27/2019 12:32:53 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

Clearly this is Trump’s fault...


20 posted on 12/27/2019 12:34:11 PM PST by rrrod
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