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To: mbrfl; MileHi

I agree about his relatively humble beginnings, but I still maintain he was likely an asset and not an agent.

I think he was a hustler from jump street. He got a big break when he befriended the Victoria’s Secret guy (Wexner?). That opened up lots of doors and access. And money. I think once he paired up with Ghislaine, that’s where they refined and fully implemented a global blackmail network.

That would have made him very interesting to a host of worldwide intelligence agencies. Would they trust him as a full-fledged agent? I don’t think he was beholden to any country or nationality but solely to his own bacchanalian desires and greed. And ego.

I’m sure he cooperated with a number of agencies, but I doubt any of them would trust him farther than they could throw him. I’m familiar with people who have been recruited as intelligence assets/resources who *tell* people they’re spies or agents. But they’re not. That’s a whole different level of vetting and trust.

I’m undecided on whether Ghislaine was a full-fledged Mossad agent and Epstein’s friend and handler, or if she is just as mercenary as him. I could go either way on that.

As an intelligence asset (for hire?) he likely would have had some level of legal protection. A good theory considering all the crap he was into all over the world.

I think Ghislaine is parlaying/trading her blackmail info into getting a good hiding place, probably in Russia. That tells me that she’s not aligned with a particular agency, or at least not one that’s willing to help her escape various contracts that are doubtless open on her. Hope she has a deadman switch!


1,182 posted on 12/26/2019 3:49:57 PM PST by KitJ (Shall not be infringed...)
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To: KitJ

We shall see. There are still a lot of missing pieces to all this - big pieces, so I can’t say conclusively one way or another. If you look up Wexner’s past, he also supposedly started from humble beginnings - building a clothing empire from a $5,000 dollar loan from his aunt. This touches on the larger question of how much birth has to do with becoming part of the illuminati network. Perhaps Wexner and Epstein are distantly related to the elite blood lines. I’ve seen some speculation that one of their practices is to place illegitimate offspring with ‘regular’ folk, and keep tabs on them - intervening to help them at certain points in their lives, if they exhibit some particularly useful talent.

Fritz Springmeier, in his ‘Bloodlines of The Illuminati’, claims that Abraham Lincoln had Rothschild blood, but that he went rogue, like JFK. Springmeier offers no documentation for this assertion, so it’s a claim that should be taken with caution. Nonetheless, it’s worth considering. Again, there are a lot of gaps in our knowledge of how this elite secret society operates. Hopefully more will be revealed over time.

In closing I would suggest that there are no independent players in the globalist network. Like the mafia, if you do business with them, you’ve given up your independence. Every one has dirt on everyone else. It seems to me Epstein’s wealth creation was tied from the very beginning, with an established insider - Wexner.

Trump is that rare breed who was able to become wealthy and powerful and do it on his own terms. In his early years Roy Cohn was his lawyer. I suspect that was a formative relationship, with Cohn helping Trump to learn about and avoid the traps that the elites set up to ensnare any independent rising star.


1,188 posted on 12/26/2019 4:45:57 PM PST by mbrfl ( KAGA - Keep America Great Always)
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To: KitJ

always wondered if BOTH JE and GM worked FOR Prince Andrew...even tho he appears to be a bumbling twit

GM’s father, Robert had an “interesting” relationship with the Crown and Israel


1,210 posted on 12/26/2019 6:30:04 PM PST by mo ("If you understand, no explanation is needed; if you don't understand, no explanation is possible")
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To: KitJ
I don’t think he was beholden to any country or nationality but solely to his own bacchanalian desires and greed. And ego.

Very well done Kit. I award you 50 points for proper use of the word bacchanalian in a post to Free Republic. Carry on.

#YouDon'tSeeThatEveryDay

1,313 posted on 12/27/2019 6:45:05 AM PST by The Toddler (There could be five or six ninjas in this room right now.)
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