Really, quoting Hitler? I should just invoke Godwin’s law. However, since you played that card first I’ll go ahead with a rebuttal. The Confederates were much more aligned with Nazi ideology than Lincoln and the US were.
Confederate ideology was just Nazism lite. How so? The Nazi leaders believed that certain people were sub-humsn and needed to be exterminated. The confederate leaders believed that certain people were sub-human and needed to be enslaved.
Just as the German Army rounded up Jews to be sent to extermination camps. The confederate army rounded up black Americans and sent them to be enslaved. Just as the US army liberated the Jews in WW2 the US Army liberated the slave in the civil war. By the end of the war 4 million men, woman, and children had been freed from the chains of bondage.
Here’s proof that Jefferson Davis would have been right at home in the SS.
“My own convictions as to negro slavery are strong. It has its evils and abuses...We recognize the negro as God and God’s Book and God’s Laws, in nature, tell us to recognize him - our inferior, fitted expressly for servitude...You cannot transform the negro into anything one-tenth as useful or as good as what slavery enables them to be.”
~Davis
For us, this is not a problem you can turn a blind eye to-one to be solved by small concessions. For us, it is a problem of whether our nation can ever recover its health, whether the Jewish spirit can ever really be eradicated. Don’t be misled into thinking you can fight a disease without killing the carrier, without destroying the bacillus. Don’t think you can fight racial tuberculosis without taking care to rid the nation of the carrier of that racial tuberculosis. This Jewish contamination will not subside, this poisoning of the nation will not end, until the carrier himself, the Jew, has been banished from our midst.
Source: D Irving, The War Path: Hitler’s Germany 1933-1939. Papermac, 1978, p.xxi
Don’t forget that both Jeff Davis and Hitler ran countries whose wartime economies were dependent on slave labor.
That is an interesting comment.
Here's what one admirer of Confederate leadership wrote:
Dear Dr. Scott:
Respecting your August 1 inquiry calling attention to my often expressed admiration for General Robert E. Lee, I would say, first, that we need to understand that at the time of the War between the States the issue of secession had remained unresolved for more than 70 years. Men of probity, character, public standing and unquestioned loyalty, both North and South, had disagreed over this issue as a matter of principle from the day our Constitution was adopted.
General Robert E. Lee was, in my estimation, one of the supremely gifted men produced by our Nation. He believed unswervingly in the Constitutional validity of his cause which until 1865 was still an arguable question in America; he was a poised and inspiring leader, true to the high trust reposed in him by millions of his fellow citizens; he was thoughtful yet demanding of his officers and men, forbearing with captured enemies but ingenious, unrelenting and personally courageous in battle, and never disheartened by a reverse or obstacle. Through all his many trials, he remained selfless almost to a fault and unfailing in his faith in God. Taken altogether, he was noble as a leader and as a man, and unsullied as I read the pages of our history.
From deep conviction, I simply say this: a nation of men of Lee’s calibre would be unconquerable in spirit and soul.
Indeed, to the degree that present-day American youth will strive to emulate his rare qualities, including his devotion to this land as revealed in his painstaking efforts to help heal the Nation’s wounds once the bitter struggle was over, we, in our own time of danger in a divided world, will be strengthened and our love of freedom sustained.
Such are the reasons that I proudly display the picture of this great American on my office wall.
Sincerely,
Dwight D. Eisenhower
Your unambiguous claim that General Eisenhower was an admirer of “Nazism lite” is unfortunate, but perhaps inevitable because of what people see today on the electric television and are taught in government schools.
I'm not saying that you deliberately maligned General Eisenhower. I do think you probably read something on the board that upset you emotionally and, rather than brandish an M-4 carbine, you lashed out in anger.
Isn't that what happened?
Not a chance. The Confederates believed in the sovereignty of the individual states; Hitler, like Lincoln, rejected federalism in favor of consolidation and central planning. Both were, after all, socialists.
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>>OIFVeteran wrote: "Confederate ideology was just Nazism lite. How so? The Nazi leaders believed that certain people were sub-humsn and needed to be exterminated. The confederate leaders believed that certain people were sub-human and needed to be enslaved.
Lincoln had some of his chosen war-criminals disguised as military officers try to exterminate the Indians. Have you ever heard of the Bear Creek Massacre that occurred on January 29, 1863? How about the Sand Creek Massacre in the spring of 1864? Lincoln also believed blacks were inferior to whites, or could we say, sub-human?
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>>OIFVeteran wrote: "Just as the German Army rounded up Jews to be sent to extermination camps. The confederate army rounded up black Americans and sent them to be enslaved. Just as the US army liberated the Jews in WW2 the US Army liberated the slave in the civil war. By the end of the war 4 million men, woman, and children had been freed from the chains of bondage."
What about slavery in the North? Did you forget about that? How about the New England slave trade? Did you forget about that?
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>>OIFVeteran wrote: "Here’s proof that Jefferson Davis would have been right at home in the SS. "
>>OIFVeteran quoting: "My own convictions as to negro slavery are strong. It has its evils and abuses...We recognize the negro as God and God’s Book and God’s Laws, in nature, tell us to recognize him - our inferior, fitted expressly for servitude...You cannot transform the negro into anything one-tenth as useful or as good as what slavery enables them to be.”~Davis >>OIFVeteran quoting: "For us, this is not a problem you can turn a blind eye to-one to be solved by small concessions. For us, it is a problem of whether our nation can ever recover its health, whether the Jewish spirit can ever really be eradicated. Don’t be misled into thinking you can fight a disease without killing the carrier, without destroying the bacillus. Don’t think you can fight racial tuberculosis without taking care to rid the nation of the carrier of that racial tuberculosis. This Jewish contamination will not subside, this poisoning of the nation will not end, until the carrier himself, the Jew, has been banished from our midst. Source: D Irving, The War Path: Hitler’s Germany 1933-1939. Papermac, 1978, p.xxi"
This is proof that Lincoln would have been right at home with the SS:
"I will say then that I am not, nor ever have been in favor of bringing about in any way the social and political equality of the white and black races, [applause]—that I am not nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurors of negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; and I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white and black races which I believe will for ever forbid the two races living together on terms of social and political equality. And inasmuch as they cannot so live, while they do remain together there must be the position of superior and inferior, and I as much as any other man am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race." [Fourth Debate with Stephen A. Douglas at Charleston, Illinois, September 18, 1858, in Roy P. Basler, "The Collected Works of Abraham Lincoln Vol 3." Rutgers University Press, 1953, pp.145-146]
"What I would most desire would be the separation of the white and black races." [Speech at Springfield, Illinois, July 17, 1858, in Basler, Roy P., "The Collected Works of Abraham Lincoln Vol 2." Rutgers University Press, 1953, pp.520-521]
That is not the half of it.
Mr. Kalamata