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To: KitJ; ssschev
Kit, I will give you credit as one of the few who did respond as an adult. Check out that thread and count the insulters among them, almost all. One other poster who was straightforward was ssschev who sent me this in reply number 1942...

IMHO, If the FBI FISA un-redacted report had been released before the Midterm elections, the Derps would have started rioting in the street blaming POTUS for interfering in the Elections. This would turn the normies against POTUS. Timing is everything.

1)Election fraud - get exposed.

2)Expose the Dem’s Chicanery.

3)Secure Elections.

4)Clean the House. (FISA release)

I don’t think we will see the FISA until mid 2019 or shortly before the crooks announce their intent to run for office in 2020. Timing is everything.

Patience grasshopper, all things in their due time.

My response was..

Thank you for your polite response. In my opinion, allowing the dems to take control of the House has torpedoed this approach. We are going to be at the mercy of THEIR agenda and THEIR propaganda for the next two years, non-stop, aided and abetted by their friends in the main stream media. Exposing anything will be buried on page 99 and not discussed to the point where it can do any good as far as reaching the targeted audience. In addition to this, the attention span of the average American is that of a five year old. Whatever publicity is generated by exposing election fraud will quickly be over ridden by the next shiny news item to come along and believe me, there will be one, even if it has to be manufactured. This, if it happens, wipes out your first two reasons.

We were told that the elections were "safe" already and look what has transpired. I do not believe there will be enough justice handed out to overcome the huge cloud of crap we are going to be subjected to in the next two years to make a difference. Attempting to create voter ID laws and implement other voting changes will be impossible with a dem controlled house so any securing of elections certainly won't happen from the federal level. A Republican controlled House and Senate might have been able to do something but that no longer exist after January 15th. This means that your third listed reason is shaky at best and probably not achievable.

That FBI unredacted report supposedly was the tool to destroy the democrats. Maybe it's all bluster and it really isn't that much and that's why it wasn't released. There will always be an election right around the corner no matter when you release it. I would also think that whatever reaction you receive will be the same no matter when as well. Trump is already getting 95% negative coverage in the media so releasing the report would not hurt him. Perhaps he plans to use it as a bargaining tool with the new dem controlled house. That I could believe, but it will never clean house the way we all want it to if used in that way.

You say, be patient but I don't see anything worth the wait. If you have a weapon to destroy your enemy, you use it. Calculating that the Kavanaugh hearings would rub off enough on election day to keep the Republicans in charge of the House might turn out to have been a huge error.

This is what should be going on, debate, rather than the childishness some of us have had to put up with. Thank you for being one of the few who actually attempted to discuss rather than piss me off.

796 posted on 11/15/2018 2:50:23 PM PST by Uncle Sham
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To: Uncle Sham
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826 posted on 11/15/2018 4:25:02 PM PST by USMC79to83
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We are so fortunate!

It seems that some people are just so much better than us, that they will actively seek out the less fortunate to tell them the truth of their sad little situations....

DICTIONARY: "Pathetic Loser"
noun
1. a loser who is such a loser, that other losers look down on them
2. an interwebz troll

835 posted on 11/15/2018 4:43:38 PM PST by USMC79to83
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To: Uncle Sham

Uncle Sham, following is my rebuttal on key points:

“In my opinion, allowing the dems to take control of the House has torpedoed this approach. We are going to be at the mercy of THEIR agenda and THEIR propaganda for the next two years, non-stop, aided and abetted by their friends in the main stream media.”

The difference now is that the public is WOKE to the MSM propaganda. The MSM has the lowest ratings ever. The people know THEY are lying. It is the same for the DEMS, THEY too have gone a bridge to far. THEY are arguing that ILLIGAL votes should count too. The Dems are destroying themselves. “Then, gentlemen,” said Napoleon, “let us wait a little; when your enemy is executing a false movement, never interrupt him.”

“Whatever publicity is generated by exposing election fraud will quickly be over ridden by the next shiny news item to come along and believe me, there will be one, even if it has to be manufactured.”

In normal times, I would agree. However, we are not in normal times. WE have a POTUS that knows how to play the MSM, knows how to keep what he wants on the front page. The MSM can’t help themselves,
“THEY ARE STUPID”

“This, if it happens, wipes out your first two reasons.”

Therefore, my first two reasons still stand.

“We were told that the elections were “safe” already and look what has transpired.”

I am watching what is transpiring as we discuss. Florida is now conducting a STATEWIDE hand count with full transparency.

“ I do not believe there will be enough justice handed out to overcome the huge cloud of crap we are going to be subjected to in the next two years to make a difference.”

Patience.

“Attempting to create voter ID laws and implement other voting changes will be impossible with a dem controlled house so any securing of elections certainly won’t happen from the federal level.”

IMHO The public is going to DEMAND voter ID laws when Florida proves that the Fraud has been exposed. Again, POTUS is not going to let this pass, and again the MSM will have no choice but to report.

“A Republican controlled House and Senate might have been able to do something but that no longer exist after January 15th. This means that your third listed reason is shaky at best and probably not achievable.”

I still believe the Elections will be secured because ‘We The People’ are going from “Dark to Light”.

“That FBI unredacted report supposedly was the tool to destroy the democrats. Maybe it’s all bluster and it really isn’t that much and that’s why it wasn’t released. There will always be an election right around the corner no matter when you release it. I would also think that whatever reaction you receive will be the same no matter when as well.”

The FISA un-redacted release can happen after the vote fraud has been exposed #walkaway. The public will be much more receptive to accepting the report. This is where the “Boomerang Suicide” happens.

“Trump is already getting 95% negative coverage in the media so releasing the report would not hurt him. Perhaps he plans to use it as a bargaining tool with the new dem controlled house. That I could believe, but it will never clean house the way we all want it to if used in that way.”

I would disagree with your 95% neg. coverage, it has been more like 99% with the attempt to block the conservative voice. How has that worked out? POTUS is still polling over 50% positive and I expect would be polling closer to 65-70% if the TRUTH were told. POTUS will not be using the FISA as a “bargaining tool”, not his style. He will use it as a BFH (Big F******* HAMMER). And POTUS has two active weapons.
First is his Twit account that the Derps tried to squelch (Did not happen).
Second is Q, which is Military Intelligence, which is to say POTUS has the FULL backing of the Military.


844 posted on 11/15/2018 5:50:07 PM PST by ssschev (Pick up the can, throw out the trash.)
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