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To: JockoManning
I'm having trouble with this.

I believe to tie Angela Merkel to Hitler we have to first find the real great grandfather.

Q post: 929
The ‘Mission’
Who is Angela Hitler?
Relationship to Adolf?
How were children named in Germany during this period?
First or middle.
Family tree
Anna.
Maria.
Alois

Wikipedia deleted this page. Saying it wasn't well sourced. The claim is that there where no Jewish people living in Graz at the time Frankenberger and Maria Anna Schicklgruber mother of Hitlers Grandfather. The claim was there where no jewish people in Graz which jewishvirtuallibrary.org says they where there just not established in graz

There is rumor I can't find yet that Lionel Rothschild was the father

Here is my problem: "How were children named in Germany during this period?"
I believe this implies that Maria Anna Schicklgruber was named after someone I'm missing here.

The subject is alleged to have been Adolf Hitler's father Alois's biological father. The first cited sentence states, "Nazi claims have disputed that Hitler had any Jewish heritage", sourced to [1], a book which states that "Nazi official Hans Frank suggested that Alois's mother had been employed as a housekeeper for a Jewish family in Graz, and that the family's 19-year-old son Leopold Frankenberger had fathered Alois". So that contradicts the sentence it is being cited for. For that matter, the book's next sentence states that "no record has been produced of Leopold Frankenberger's existence". The second cited sentence states, "Frankenberger was born early in 1818 in Graz, Austria to Leopold Frankenberger, Sr. and his wife, likely during the annual trade fair in Graz", sourced to [2]. That page has no mention of Frankenberger. This article appears to be based primarily on misinterpretation or misuse of the sources that it cites and partly on unsourced speculation. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 15:17, 5 November 2016 (UTC) More on the misuse of sources:

The article says, "19-year-old Leopold fathered Alois Hitler out of wedlock", cited to [3]. That book says, "Attorney Hans Frank speculated that the Fuhrer's paternal grandfather, Maria Anna Schicklgruber might have been impregnated by 19 year old Leopold Frankenberger, son of her alleged Jewish employer. Most historians reject this theory because no Frankenberger family resided in Graz circa 1836 when Alois Hitler Sr. was conceived."

The article says, "He [Frankenberger] was alleged to have paid the child-support money as hush money", cited to [4]. That book says, "The third possibility [of candidates for Alois Hitler's father] was that Maria Anna was working for a Jewish family known as the Frankenbergers. She could have been made pregnant by one of the sons, Leopold Frankenberger. In an effort to hush up the matter, the Frankenbergers paid her some money as compensation. [¶] The problem with this theory is that there were no Jews living in Graz during this period. They had been banished and did not return until around 1860s, long after Alois was born. Even if the Frankenbergers did exist, this theory implied that they had the money to buy Maria Anna's silence. Since Adolf Hitler's paternal grandfather was poor, then the possible father of Alois Hitler could not have been a Frankenberger."

The article says, "Leopold and his father paid child support for Alois for several years, so he probably played at least a moderate role in his son's early life", cited to [5]. That book does claim that the Frankenbergers paid child support to Maria, but says nothing at all about whether Leopold had any role in Alois's early life. In addition, the book says that Leopold Frankenberger died circa 1860, whereas this article portrays him as living an additional 52 years until 1912. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 01:31, 7 November 2016 (UTC)

1. https://books.google.com/books?id=wSMzDAAAQBAJ&pg=PT7&dq=Leopold+Frankenberger&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjZ856IteLPAhXMWD4KHaM1ADkQ6AEIHDAA#v=onepage&q=Leopold%20Frankenberger&f=false

2. http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/graz

3. https://books.google.com/books?id=6Jk6oTUIZG8C&pg=PA190&dq=Leopold+Frankenberger,+Jr&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiZ2-GDteLPAhXLeD4KHbceBg0Q6AEIIzAB#v=onepage&q=Leopold%20Frankenberger%2C%20Jr&f=false

4. https://books.google.com/books?id=VJW2RD81hDYC&pg=PA39&dq=Leopold+Frankenberger&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjZ856IteLPAhXMWD4KHaM1ADkQ6AEIPjAG#v=onepage&q=Leopold%20Frankenberger&f=false

5. https://books.google.com/books?id=V1PDCwAAQBAJ&pg=PT45&dq=Leopold+Frankenberger&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjZ856IteLPAhXMWD4KHaM1ADkQ6AEIODAF#v=onepage&q=Leopold%20Frankenberger&f=false

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Leopold_Frankenberger,_Jr._(2nd_nomination)

2,119 posted on 03/11/2018 4:13:31 AM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: Steve Van Doorn

Interesting. Not sure therefore what, but interesting.


2,176 posted on 03/11/2018 7:13:45 AM PDT by JockoManning (http://www.zazzle.com/brain_truth for hats T's e.g. STAY CALM & DO THE NEXT LOVING THING)
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To: Steve Van Doorn
Gretl Braun might be Merkel's mother:
https://50shadesofpissedoff.com/2017/03/26/angela-merkel-is-the-daughter-of-hitler-and-hitler-was-a-rothschild-2/
2,238 posted on 03/11/2018 10:20:34 AM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: Steve Van Doorn
"Attorney Hans Frank speculated that the Fuhrer's paternal grandfather, Maria Anna Schicklgruber might have been impregnated by 19 year old Leopold Frankenberger, son of her alleged Jewish employer."

"...grandfather..."? Now that would have been quite a trick, impregnating a man. . . No wonder there was so much confusion in these various source books!Absolute proof that these people were the source of our gender benders today. LOL!

I found a source that also points out that the German language underwent a modernization in spelling around this time and that Hitler used to be Hiedtler just a generation or so before. This makers tracing the family tree more difficult.

2,244 posted on 03/11/2018 10:59:53 AM PDT by Swordmaker (My pistol self-identifies as an iPad, so you must accept it in gun-free zones, you racist, bigot!)
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