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To: Natufian

It’s not up to me to prove that Stanley Ann would have been allowed to take a <1 mo old baby on a 2,683 mile flight. I have said all along that if SA had had the baby in HI she’d have stayed there. I also maintain that her parents got her out of HI long before airline rules could have been an issue. This explains why no one has confirmed they saw her in HI from the end of the fall ‘60 semester until she returned in ‘63, why no one has any earthly idea where in HI she (supposedly) lived, why no one remembers her going to the hospital or coming home, why an address was used on the BC at which SA was NOT living, etc. etc.

If my entire theory hinged on SA being allowed to make such a marathon flight with a newborn, then it would be up to me to prove that airlines in ‘61 allowed newborns in such circumstances. Your reference/link is not to a newborn. Nor do you address the fact that technology was nothing in ‘61 compared to what it is today. Personally, I absolutely do not believe such a tiny infant would have been allowed on a 2,83 mile flight back then. But I don’t have to prove that bc all known facts point to Stanley Ann already being in the Seattle/Vancouver area when the baby was born.

Btw, what is your theory as to why SA would have rushed out of HI under the circumstances? Had she given birth there, she had many reasons to remain. Why would she have undertaken such an upheaval in her life?


133 posted on 12/12/2017 9:19:05 AM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Fantasywriter
It is up to you to support the following assertion you made in post 99:

Given airline restrictions in 1961, it’s a virtual impossibility that SA gave birth in HI and then rushed the newborn onto a flight for Seattle.

What restrictions are you talking about?

I'll reply to your other points later, busy right now.

134 posted on 12/12/2017 9:52:29 AM PST by Natufian (t)
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To: Fantasywriter; Natufian
"Nor do you address the fact that technology was nothing in ‘61 compared to what it is today. Personally, I absolutely do not believe such a tiny infant would have been allowed on a 2,83 mile flight back then."

You think in 1961 air travel was more restrictive than it is today? Even today with all the technology, the FAA allows children under the age of two years to sit unrestrained on their parent's lap. Even though this is a known safety issue.

Looking at various airline websites - Southwest allows two week old infants to fly and Alaska Airlines says they have no age restrictions but recommends that family doctor gives an okay.

Alaska Airlines:

"While there is no minimum age for infants traveling with us, check with your doctor if you're unsure your infant should be traveling via plane."

https://www.alaskaair.com/content/travel-info/policies/traveling-with-lap-infants

"why no one remembers her going to the hospital or coming home, why an address was used on the BC at which SA was NOT living, etc. etc."

But it was the address where her parents' lived and where she lived according to the 1961-1962 Polk Directory for Honolulu.

Btw, what is your theory as to why SA would have rushed out of HI under the circumstances? Had she given birth there, she had many reasons to remain. Why would she have undertaken such an upheaval in her life?

From the August 31, 1961 it would appear the transfer to UofW was planned for sometime. My guess is she left to get away from her husband.

Similar to when Leslie Lynch King Jr"s mother left her husband when he was two weeks old and went from Omaha, Nebraska to Grand Rapids, Michigan.

135 posted on 12/12/2017 10:20:08 AM PST by 4Zoltan
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