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To: Heartlander

did you just say that a man who can make an arrow doesn’t need a designer? Yes you did. I’m glad you finally see my position. I’m not a Christian so the intellectual limitations and blinders that have hobbled them for centuries do not trouble me.


66 posted on 04/28/2016 2:46:16 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Freedom isn't free, liberty isn't liberal and you'll never find anything Right on the Left)
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To: muir_redwoods

Hate to tell you but atheists are not smart, not even in the running.

http://www.examiner.com/article/of-10-highest-iq-s-on-earth-at-least-8-are-theists-at-least-6-are-christians?CID=examiner_alerts_article

The fact is your kind did not exist as such prior to 1950s when British professor Antony Flew wrote over thirty philosophical works which established the foundations for atheism for half a century.

His 1950 paper “Theology and Falsification” was the most reprinted philosophical publication of the 20th century. This is the man without whose ideas the various Richard Dawkins, Sam Harris, Dennett, Wolpert, Stenger, (not to mention Christopher Hitchens and Pat Condell) et al, none of whom is a philosopher, would not have had rational arguments to support their faith: atheism.

Fact is pretty much every scientific discipline we have was founded by believers. So you have nothing to be smug about.


68 posted on 04/28/2016 3:02:54 PM PDT by Mechanicos (Trump is for America First. Cruz is for America Last. It's that simple.)
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To: muir_redwoods
Please try to follow - I said a known designer is not required by Intelligent Design - you don't need to know who designed the designer when you discover an arrow - you know it was designed. (Can be applied the the fine tuned universe, DNA, rare earth, consciousness, etc...) The point is obviously that you can infer design without knowing anything about the designer (or who designed the designer).

You are obviously not a Christian because you believe your brain comes from mindlessness - and your brain is just another organ supplied by evolution for survival - like your liver or anus.

To paraphrase CS Lewis, if your mind is a product of the irrational (mindlessness) then why trust your mind when it tells you about anything? - free will, morality, and consciousness become your myths.

69 posted on 04/28/2016 3:22:02 PM PDT by Heartlander (Prediction: Increasingly, logic will be seen as a covert form of theism. - Denyse O'Leary)
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