Posted on 07/23/2015 4:45:30 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
Trump is saying some things that simply have to have been said. He's telling the truth. However, the longer this goes on, one begins to wonder what the real motive is? A lot of this stuff should have been said a long time ago by other conservative politicians and none would do so. So, why now...and by THIS guy with no real record of being a conservative?
It is beginning to look like he is trying to divide the conservative electorate. The Democrats are all united behind evil causes and they stick together like glue. We could be under invasion by the Chinese and the leftist, Godless liberals will still be clinging to their illegal immigrants, anti-gun rants, burn-the-Bible as well as the flag rallies and gay lovers. They prefer to go down in flames without making any change in thinking.
However, the conservatives all begin to fight with each other about which candidate is really genuine and really standing for what is right when almost none have a real record of doing so except for Ted Cruz. With all of this hoopla about Donald Trump with the media complicit in shoving Cruz out of the spotlight to highlight this guy and how much he is stirring everyone up, Cruz gets little or no coverage on his excellent arguments about turning the country around. And, THAT, to me, appears to be the actual goal of Donald Trump. It is beginning to look like the powers behind the scenes knew Cruz was going to be a problem and might actually thwart their evil plans and so needed something, ANYTHING, that would take the attention away from him.
If the f-ing GOP hadn't willingly become a bunch of political and social whores, Donald Trump wouldn't be causing party hacks of both parties and the progressive media to be fouling their pants right now.
I really don't give a rat's ass about what Trump my or may not be, nor how clever or stupid he is, or even if I've been "had" by him. "Had?" "HAD?!!" I've been "had" in spades by the GOP, and it has gone on for decades. I don't even have a country anymore thanks to the feckless bastards. How has Donald Trump stuck one into me and busted off the handle lately?
I'm not saying he couldn't (or wouldn't) bend me over the sawhorse, but my "friends" in the GOP have beaten him to the punch, and they are also the ones who are perfectly fine with calling me a crazy and a wacko after they play me for a fool. Yeah, I've been had all right.
Mr. niteowl77
It is just hard for me to consider Trump an actual Cruz-like conservative given some of the things that he has done and said in the past.
Conservatives, by definition, have principles and those principles are very firm. The founding fathers were like that. Ted Cruz is like that. Trump just isn't. That's a deal killer for me. Sorry about that.
You didn't look closely at the RCP polls. Look at the latest PPP poll. Look who is polling above there RCP average and who is polling below there average.
Here is the list of those polling above their average and are on the upswing in the polls:
Trump, Walker, Rubio, Carson, Huckabee, Christie, Kasich, Fiorina.
And who is polling below their RCP average and are there falling in the polls?
Bush, Paul, Cruz, Perry, Santorum, Jindal
Trends count. Cruz has a 5.4 RCP average right now. In a week or so that will be down to 4. Thanks to Trump.
Conservatives, by definition, have principles and those principles are very firm. The founding fathers were like that. Ted Cruz is like that. Trump just isn't. That's a deal killer for me. Sorry about that.
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Donald Trump is on the wrong side of many conservative issues, but he obviously loves this Country.
As President, he would help bring the Country back from financial ruin and be a hawk on border issues. With those problems solved, we can work out the rest of the issues.
My number one choice is Ted Cruz, but if Donald Trump were to make the ticket, I would not have to hold my nose to vote for him.
Despite my hitting on Trump I agree. Trump vs. Clinton would be George Washington vs. Karl Marx. An easy choice.
You're right. I don't need to when one guy has double his closest competitor. To do otherwise is to miss the forrest for the trees.
Well, you're one out of three I'd say. With regard to poll numbers at this stage with Reagan, if that's true, then perhaps there is an analogy, though a minor one.
But that's not what the Reagan Trump analogy is about to the vast majority of those who have been so foolish as to make it. Not at all. And I think you know that.
And a guys liberal history is hardly a meaningless campaign issue, so I totally reject that part of your premise.....but if you were narrowly talking about the polling, then I've no quibble with it.
It would seem ours is the prevailing opinion here.
Everybody likes Cruz, but Trump has shown the ability to make hash of the standard political roadblocks normally used against “us.”
You’re right. I don’t need to when one guy has double his closest competitor. To do otherwise is to miss the forrest for the trees.
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Too bad for you. Anyone can see the forest: Trump is ahead in the polls right now. Fine.
But I want Ted Cruz to be our next President so I have great interest in the negative (or positive) effect the Rise of Trump will have on the Cruz candidacy. That requires looking at the trees. A little extra work.
Clearly you have much less interest than I do in Ted Cruz.
That’s fine too.
Unless you got evidence outside of a funny feeling, then yes he did.
The real question is if GHW Bush or Dole wanted to.
Oh man, I'm starting to read as badly as I hear.
I thought you wrote that you'd crawl over MIME field and I'm thinking, "wow a field full of mimes! Impressive. That's a bold statement! They're even scarier and more annoying than clowns."
B4L8R
AMEN
Regarding spending, one very nice thing about Trump is he’s already rich, filthily rich. This translates to he cannot be bought off by special interest groups like the RINO’s obviously have been bought off by the hate the Constitution bunch.
All the money the the GOPe has collected from special interests will wind up buying nothing if he’s elected. I just love it. This Republican convention will just wreak stink from soiled shorts.
I hope my states own home grown RINO is defunded by these groups paving the way for a real conservative next time around.
That was not part of my premise...you add things to the premise, then dispute them. That’s what I thought. I said NOTHING about ideology. I am making no comparison in ideology.
quit taking it personally....as I said, the VAST majority of those making that analogy ARE making it a COMPLETE and TOTAL analogy.
You’re not the issue here. Neither am I. The issue is the phony analogy - as in the way most people are using the analogy.
They are voting for the democrat plantation life verses freedom and self reliance...
Voting for the plantation life long term is against their best interests long term...
Thank you.
No catch...he’s a traditional populist who follows the flow..the hot buttons..
I think he’s a lot like Bill O’really who essentially garners audience by doing the same thing. Anyone listening on either side is ticked off at him 50% of the time.
I suppose you could say that he belongs to neither the republican or democrat parties and is a true populist independent in the Huey P Long mode..
But that’s not necessarily a good thing. Populists never are.
Trump is saying what needs to be said, taking the flak and eating the medias' lunch. Cruz is backing him.
It is resonating with the American people. This and planned parenthood need to be kept front and center till the election.
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