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To: ncalburt

NC, please see my post 74.

I know you feel passionately about this trade deal, Sen. Cruz feels the opposite. As he’s said, “ If I am with you, I’m really, really with you. And if I’m not with you, I’m really, really not with you.” He’s just not with you on this one.

As for your constitutional argument, the fast track is not a treaty, and therefore, Article II, The Treaty Clause, does not apply.


76 posted on 06/08/2015 7:10:49 PM PDT by VinL (It is better to suffer every wrong, then to consent to wrong.)
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To: VinL
Gee isn't the point of wrapping the TPP in Fast track !

its a disgraceful scam

You dodge treaty law with Fast track. Cruz and his pals like Paul Ryan and Bonehead must be so giddy. that is why TPP is being ram thru in record time!

Who are trying to fool here lecturing us . Its a secretive monster that has little to do with trade and everything to deal with circumventing existing US laws via a treaty .

Cruz thinks he and the rest of K street Billionaire whores are real slick.

81 posted on 06/08/2015 7:20:01 PM PDT by ncalburt ( Amnesty-media out in full force)
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To: VinL
As for your constitutional argument, the fast track is not a treaty, and therefore, Article II, The Treaty Clause, does not apply.

Who determined that trade bills are not treaties?

Is it not an agreement with another nation?

How are trade deals different from treaties?

So, you think a treaty that sets the rules for extradition is different from an agreement on tariffs..when both affect our laws?

Fast Track is just like the nuclear option.....a shortcut of the process for the lazy.

It is not supposed to be easy to create treaties. It is supposed to take a supermajority because of their importance and impact on the nation.

Just like approving nominations, it is not supposed to be a simple majority to engage in trade deals.

106 posted on 06/08/2015 8:22:47 PM PDT by Erik Latranyi (President Walker - Attorney General Cruz (enforcing immigration laws for real))
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