YAY BUTTER
Posted on 02/10/2015 4:54:43 AM PST by rickmichaels
Guidelines that told millions of people to avoid butter and full-fat milk should never have been introduced, say experts.
The startling assertion challenges advice that has been followed by the medical profession for 30 years.
The experts say the advice from 1983, aimed at reducing deaths from heart disease, lacked any solid trial evidence to back it up.
The guidelines – the first of their kind – were introduced when as much as one-fifth of the average British diet was saturated fat such as butter, cream and fattier cuts of meat.
Britons were advised by an official dietary committee to cut their fat intake to 30 per cent of total energy and saturated fat intake to 10 per cent, while increasing the amount of carbohydrate they ate.
This led food makers to create low-fat spreads, including cholesterol-lowering products, while consumers shunned cheese, milk and cream.
However, now some scientists even say the advice is responsible – in part – for the obesity crisis because it encouraged an increase in carbohydrate in our diets.
A new review says evidence from trials did not support the advice. It says it is ‘incomprehensible’ that such advice was introduced for 56million Britons in 1983 and 220million Americans six years earlier ‘given the contrary results from a small number of unhealthy men’.
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e: New studies:
Actually, the diet revolution underway is mostly about that the old studies were junk.
re: Butter isn’t so bad.
Not just. For most people, consume as much as you want (if you are low carb). Do favor organic butter.
re: Lard isn’t so bad.
Ditto. Go for pasture-raised hormone- and anti-biotic-free.
re: Salt isn’t so bad.
Yep, and when low cab, we generally need to increase salt intake.
re: How many taxpayer $$$dollars were spent for the original studies that condemned those and many other items?
This was mostly about politics and lobbying. The science was never there.
re: How many taxpayer $$$dollars were spent on the new studies?
None, really. This thread is about what might be an “emporer has no clothes, and never did” moment. The USDA and Big Food may shrug it off, but it’s encouraging that a science journal ran it.
re: Are cyclamates still evil? Saccharine?
Worth avoiding until more is known about gut biome effects, which is only now starting to be looked at. We rely on this list of alternative sweeteners:
http://www.wheatbelly.com/articles/sweeteners
re: Now, one of the new evils is fructose. For how long?
Probably forever, except as consumed as whole fruit. The stuff is a fat magnet. Isolated or added fructose needs to be avoided.
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT FAILURES....I don’t know how anyone trusts a single woord they say...this s why we have the “anti-vaxxers”. IF people knew the collusion of companies and the FDA and their studies...so many sheep
re: Don’t forget the coffee! ...oops, coffee bad, good, bad, good...
Yep, it’s probably the poster child for food fad and food fright of the week. It’s apt to end up being a mix of benefits and hazards, and some people actually need to avoid it. I drink it.
YAY BUTTER
I never read or listened to any study on coffee. I’d rather die horribly than not drink coffee.
I’m drinking coffee out of my 34 oz Bubba travel mug as I write this.
My general opinion is don’t overdo on anything for extended periods of time and the rest is genetics.
I overdo on coffee, though, and always will. Hypertension be damned.
People with common sense figured this out long ago.
Butter, lard, eggs, red meat, salt. They’re what helped our forebears live into their eighties, nineties, and sometimes even past one hundred. Throw in some garden vegetables and fresh ground wheat and you’re in great shape.
Margarine will kill you.
re: People with common sense figured this out long ago.
Our ancestors knew what to eat. That’s why we’re here.
What we now actually know about diet is that we have a lot to learn.
Pretty much everyone would be vastly better off switching to an ancestral diet for their genotype, and then watching developments.
re: Throw in some garden vegetables and fresh ground wheat and you’re in great shape.
Avoid the gluten-bearing grains (and grains generally, as they provoke blood sugar and often have other adverse proteins and toxins).
Humans are not ruminants. Seeds of grasses are not human food, and consuming them has major downsides.
re: Margarine will kill you.
Yep.
I'm with you! I've already gone back to butter and full fat milk. Man, I'd forgotten just how wonderful milk tasted! The 2% stuff has no flavor!
Have you heard what they tell pregnant women these days? So many things they can't eat. It's ridiculous. I wonder how we ever managed to have children without all these "great" studies to tell us what to do?
The best pie crusts are made with lard. Not that Crisco-type crap.
We raised dairy cattle. Had whole cream on demand, and churned some of our own cream into butter. Now, CHURNED butter is truly heavenly!!! Absolutely better flavor than what you buy. And whole cream on cereal....to die for. Try buying whole cream anymore.
me too.
Chicken Little, paging chicken Little, pick up a white courtesy phone....
I hate it when I read “Studies now show-——” .Time to look for an agenda.
This doesn’t mean I question the stand on butter, tho. I’ve been eating butter for years. Look at the label— very few ingredients, as compared to the list under margarines.
re: I hate it when I read “Studies now show-——” .Time to look for an agenda.
What I check:
0. Find the fulltext, and not some dunce’s misreading of it.
1. Is it just an analysis, or a new trial?
2. Is it a trial on humans, or rodents?
3. Who funded it?
4. What else have the researchers been on about?
5. If a real trial, what was the reference (control) diet?
6. What was the placebo? (often amazingly NON-inert)
This is the sad reality of what passes for nutrition science over the last half century.
Here’s another “emperor has no clothes” article just lately published (and only 40 years overdue):
“Nutrition Revolution—The End of the High Carbohydrates Era for Diabetes Prevention and Management”
http://www.touchendocrinology.com/sites/www.touchendocrinology.com/files/OsamaHamdy.pdf
The last sentence in that article is what is dismaying.
I followed so called health quacks on the radio, years ago. I forgot their names, but most of what they talked about, is now considered good sense — not quackery. Look at Linus Pauling and his stand on Vitamin C.,
One thing I learned was to look to see who was funding any particular article on nutrition.
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