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To: A Formerly Proud Canadian

stupid idea! compressed air as an energy storage mechanism is extremely inefficient.


4 posted on 02/26/2014 1:10:07 PM PST by loungitude (The truth hurts.)
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How does the compressed air get into the compressed air holder thingy? Probably takes a gas engine to pump it on there.


11 posted on 02/26/2014 1:16:45 PM PST by b4its2late (A Progressive is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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Yup. Air as a means to power a sailboat is about the only way it works.

Still takes gas/coal/nuke to compress the air otherwise and that WASTES energy. Far more efficient to use the gas/coal/nuke directly. AND less polluting because of it.


20 posted on 02/26/2014 1:21:23 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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There is a diagram in the article. The energy stored in the compressed gas is created and transferred with hydraulics. The compressed air is trapped in what is referred to as a hydraulic accumulator. Efficient enough.


26 posted on 02/26/2014 1:24:36 PM PST by Cboldt
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Are they worse that electric hybrids? High voltage, heavy metal, heavy vehicles carrying a lot more force when they crash than a non-hybrid, difficult to quench fires, toxic fumes, etc.

If the French can make a compressed air hybrid car work, more power to them! If they did, it would sure be a black eye to Government Motors.


39 posted on 02/26/2014 1:34:10 PM PST by A Formerly Proud Canadian (I once was blind, but now I see...)
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-— stupid idea! compressed air as an energy storage


Yes. But if the energy is free, I.e., harnessed from braking energy, then it’s not such a bad idea, if the car is tiny. And the cool air generated by decompression could be used for a/c


71 posted on 02/26/2014 2:14:13 PM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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You can offset some of the energy lost as heat during compression, by using the cold exhaust air to cool the interior of the vehicle. The air-powered Tata, being developed in India, will use the exhaust air for cooling. Here's a link to an article and photo of the Tata. On the pro side, it looks like it beats walking.

http://www.smartplanet.com/blog/smart-takes/in-india-an-air-powered-car/26429

Note that the efficiency claims only apply to urban driving -- stop-and-go driving, in other words. It all has to do with recapturing braking energy. The Peugeot would capture braking energy as compressed air. A compressor can capture short bursts of energy much faster than a battery can. electric hybrid (such as a Prius), because batteries can't store small bursts of energy as quickly as a compressor. The more braking energy that's captured and reused, the more efficient the vehicle. That doesn't work well on the open road, where there's little braking energy to recapture.

72 posted on 02/26/2014 2:15:36 PM PST by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: loungitude
"[insert leftist fad here] as an energy storage mechanism is extremely inefficient."

That's not going to stop them, particularly is there's gub'mint money involved.

I'm pretty sure this was tried in India about a decade ago, iirc.

75 posted on 02/26/2014 2:27:30 PM PST by Calvin Locke
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India has been doing it for a while with no apparently problems.


91 posted on 02/26/2014 3:21:41 PM PST by Hootowl
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