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To: Ray76
What you contend is the “essential question” is a partial question.

No, Ray, in fact as to eligibility "Was B.H.O.II born in Hawaii?" is the entirely of the question. He either was or he wasn't. There's nothing "partial" about it.

But do tell if you disagree: what else needs to be asked?

Also, as has been thoroughly discussed on FR, “matching” does not imply completeness.

And I've already addressed this a few posts back:

That's one reason perhaps why Onaka used the words "matches the information" rather than "true and complete copy" as the Hawaiian original contains medical or other information that can't and wasn't released with the White House version.

Really, do try to keep up.

But as to that critical question Onaka's verification "A birth certificate is on file with the Department of Health indicating that Barack Hussein Obama, II was born in Honolulu, Hawaii" is complete.

237 posted on 02/04/2014 2:05:32 PM PST by CpnHook
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To: CpnHook

>>No, Ray, in fact as to eligibility “Was B.H.O.II born in Hawaii?” is the entirely of the question. He either was or he wasn’t.

Alien parentage.


240 posted on 02/04/2014 2:08:16 PM PST by Ray76 (How modern liberals think: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaE98w1KZ-c)
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To: CpnHook; Red Steel; Ray76; butterdezillion
"But as to that critical question Onaka's verification 'A birth certificate is on file with the Department of Health indicating that Barack Hussein Obama, II was born in Honolulu, Hawaii' is complete."

Legally complete and not successfully challenged, as of now, but depending on what Zullo and Arpaio come out with "shooting for March" the Hawaii DOH records can be challenged in court or by Congress in an impeachment hearing that included full discovery of the HI original records.

See Zullo's affidavit point #'s 61-68 in comment #24 in the FR thread I put up on that affidavit:

"Affidavit: Sheriff Joe Lead Obama Investigator; New Evidence Submitted In Case (Arpaio)"

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3019976/posts?page=24#24

To: butterdezillion

(Hawaii criminal conspiracy)

Arizona’s Verification Attempts Thwarted

61. Arizona Secretary of State Ken Bennett requested verification of Mr. Obama’s birth records from the State of Hawaii Department of Health:

62. “Please verify that the attached copy of the Certificate of Live Birth for Mr. Obama is a true and accurate representation of the original record in your files.”

63. However, Hawaii Department of Health State Registrar Dr. Alvin T. Onaka did not verify the White House computer image as a true or accurate representation of the original birth record, only responding, “the information in the copy … that you attached with your request matches the original record in our file.”

64. Hawaii officials cleverly focused on the representation of information depicted in the fraudulent image diverting attention to the foundation of the request of Secretary of State Bennett. “Please verify that the attached copy of the Certificate of Live Birth for Mr. Obama is a true and accurate representation of the original record in your files.”

65. “Information” is not a verification of the document (.pdf file) as a whole.

66. A fraudulently created document often times contains matching information on some level when compared to some other document of record, however, the fact that some information may match in a file does not verify the legitimacy of the document as a whole.

67. In this case the .pdf image presented by the White House to the public, is in the appearance of what the unsuspecting public would perceived to be a true copy of an official document and therefore accepted on face value. This also includes the fabrication and appearance of green security paper background that one would expect to be used on such an official document. The creation and use of this background would solely be used to give the perception of authenticity in an official capacity.

68. Further, Hawaii has not acknowledged that they ever created or released an electronic computer created .pdf file containing an image of the Barack Hussein Obama II Hawaii Certificate of Live Birth to the White House or to the attorney for Barack Hussein Obama II. They also did not verify how and when information may have been added or deleted for the original file and for what purpose.

24 posted 5/15/2013 by Seizethecarp

272 posted on 02/04/2014 3:51:28 PM PST by Seizethecarp (Defend aircraft from "runway kill zone" mini-drone helicopter swarm attacks: www.runwaykillzone.com)
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