Posted on 12/22/2013 7:55:11 AM PST by Colofornian
well when are you going to start posting witty things?
Sure, I can do Jesus as well, “Do for others what you want them to do for you: this is the meaning of the Law of Moses and of the teachings of the prophets.” You know, Golden Rule, Live and Let Live, Be as Kind and Respectful as YOU want to be treated. You referred to me as Satan just for daring to express a position consistent with the 1st Amendment. Classy.
Speaking with love softens hearts. Speak with anger or a heavy hand hardens hearts
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Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
So when the LORD Jesus Christ made Himself a whip and went into the temple and overturned tables whipped the moneychangers and drove them bodily out of His “Father’s house”
was that soft fluffy loving or in anger ???
Is that what Jesus did every time?
cmon, the answer to that is easy
Well there was that one time he killed a few million people cause he was angry..
now you’re just being silly
How about the time he stoned that prostitute to death.
Then there’s that tax collector he condemned.
There ya go again hatin on the Mormons..
It was the Mormon jesus who killed all those people
the LORD Jesus Christ of the Christian Bible got angry and whipped and threw the money changers bodily out of the Temple in Jerusalem..
Why don’t you read the Bible for yourself ???
Jesus got angry..
He was not the mamby pamby weakling that the Mormons like to pretend He was..
Well except for that time their Mormon jesus murdered all those people here in the Americas...
but that’s not in the Christian Bible..
ya hafta read the book of Mormon for that story..
Well, indeed speaking with love softens hearts...but not ALL hearts. Otherwise, God, the Perfect Lover & Perfect Speaker would have already converted about everybody to Him. (Right?)
If you were to "lecture" or "scold" a parent of a teen whose going thru either substance abuse or out-of-control neglect of most/all boundaries in life, your "Ya know, honey, speaking with luuuuuuuvvvvvv is guaranteed to soften the heart of that hormonal-laced rebel, ya know" comes across as sweep & syrupy & not actually very helpful in that given situation.
Whether you want to concede it or not, parents of such teens need to engage in "tough love." Heavenly Father often had to take a "tough love" approach in dealing with awol Israel.
As far as "anger" goes...#1...many of those who frequent these threads aren't X-Mormon...and therefore don't have oft' assumed "bitterness" motives. (I don't) I have been treated rather well by all the Mormon family/relatives in my life. I love them; they love me. And we get along rather sweetly.
For you to assume anger is involved is judging the inner person, which Scripture warns vs. doing (see 1 Samuel 16:7, for example).
You: "Speak with...a heavy hand hardens hearts."
Yet another assumption on your part. If you had a friend reaching out to someone in bondage to alcohol, drugs, lust, or pick your poison, and for you to come along and counsel them by saying: "Speak with...a heavy hand locks people in bondage" would be ludicrous. They would look at you with a look on their face like, "Haven't you got a clue? This person I'm trying to reach is ALREADY locked in bondage!!!"
You see, you're making an assumption that the heart being targeted isn't hard already! (May I suggest you start going thru the book of Acts -- say Acts 17, 18, 19 -- to see how Paul & Apollos witnessed the stiff religious Jews of their day in the synagogues?) That becomes the model for those who are stuck in their surface religious activity, yet don't know the One True God.
“He was not”
My Jesus is alive.
Eh ???
When I get better straight men.
Is that what ELSIE does, every time?
You Are 90% Conservative, 10% Liberal
Social Issues: 100% Conservative, 0% Liberal
Personal Responsibility: 75% Conservative, 25% Liberal
Fiscal Issues: 100% Conservative, 0% Liberal
Ethics: 75% Conservative, 25% Liberal
Defense and Crime: 100% Conservative, 0% Libera
Religion: ????????????????
So you’re saying you need a real man? Someone who can protect and direct you so that you don’t have time or inclination for all these cut-n-paste posts?
trolling again? Shouldn’t you be in the kitchen making breakfast?
That was from an online test which didnt include religion.
I’m 100% Christian, born again evangelical.
Then why the apparent love for Mormonism?
We’ll there ya go, you’re predilection for trolling has caused you to miss the obvious.
All I’m saying is the hateful approach used in these threads is not an effective way of evangelizing for Christ.
Yep, there are times I am sick to death of hearing “but they are such good people”.
Problem is all that “goodness” is not from the heart but them working for their own salvation.
My first real exposure to momonISm was 1962, the more I learned the more mortified I became.
Because my mormon family thinks me to be “one of those primitives”, they have no fear in telling me everything.
I guess they think I am to stupid to understand anyway.
Three years a ago after my cousin gave birth to her umtiump child, she became very depressed.
Her husband didn’t understand or was embarrassed by her behavior. He berated her, took her their bishop who berated her (thinking himself a counselor I guess).
This continued to escalate, she lost friends, her temple job
because just couldn’t function. (Yea, she also worked full time, but kept that perfection going, go to keep up the ‘goodness’)
Finally, both her husband and bishop said she was unworthy of being “called” two days later she took her own life.
Her parents, her siblings still dutifully go to ward and do their work....mustn’t give the impression to the outside word things are wrong.
Sorry, this is long, I just wanted you to know I completely understand the blasphemy and sham appearance of what is called mormonISM.
Before anyone says I should have helped, I would have had I known, you see because I would not cover to mormonISM she wouldn’d see me. See how ‘good’ that is.
“All I’m saying is the hateful approach used in these threads is not an effective way of evangelizing for Christ.”
1. Exposing cultic error is not equal to hate.
2. Prove this isn’t an effective way to evangelize.
Since you mis characterize the first in your post, I doubt you will be able to provide evidence for your claim in the second...
But post your evidence.
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