Posted on 08/27/2013 10:44:47 AM PDT by one guy in new jersey
Partial Transcript of the Mark Levin Show aired live on Monday, August 19, 2013
[start at 0:26 of the podcast recording]
Hello everybody, Mark Levin here, our number 877-381-3811, 877-381-3811.
Mark Levin: Before we jump in, all I can say is, Wow! You guys, open your microphones a second. Thousands of people at both booksignings. Wasn’t that unbelievable?
Staffer: There were a lot of people there, it was great.
Mark Levin: And the people were just spectacular, weren’t they? Except for one guy in New Jersey which I’ll talk about later.
Staffer: [chuckles]
Mark Levin: This… this birther stuff is way, way out of contr…”Now Ted Cruz” … I swear I almost hit this guy… “Ted Cruz is not a citizen!” No, he’s born to an American mother, no he’s born in Canada to an American mother. So all you pregnant ladies travelling overseas: According to certain birther, uh, groups, if you have a child while you are on vacation, they’re not Americans. They’re not natural-born Americans. I just thought you’d wanna know, if you were thinking of your kid as a potential presidential candidate, uh, because they say so. They have no historical background whatsoever… None! But it’s, it’s just amazing! Absolutely stunning! But we had so many wonderful people, and let me add, all races, both genders… I don’t know the sexual preferences, that wasn’t a requirement to say hello…young people, elderly, middle age people. A particularly young crowd, yeah, we had dogs come too, everybody so well behaved, and uh, it was a pleasure. In New York, we were there about four-and-a-half hours, in New Jersey about five, five-and-a-half hours, and I wanted to be respectful to everybody, so… I just want to thank you all, and this Saturday, Tyson’s Corner, Virginia, at Barnes and Noble. I should add, if you want to see the crowd that was at New York, Mr. Producer went down the line, and this was early on, this, this line kept growing and growing throughout the day…you can go look at uh MarkLevinShow.com on our website, as well as the social sites MarkLevinShow Facebook, MarkLevinShow Twitter. Um, Christians, Coptic Christians are being wiped out in Egypt. Their churches are being burned to the ground….
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Mark Levin: Alright, lets go to uh, Steve in New York, the great WABC, go!
Steve: Great one, it’s great to talk to you, what an honor.
Mark Levin: My honor, thank you, my friend.
Steve: Oh, I got a great story for you, I loved your uh, Hannity special, I enjoyed it very much, I listened to it three times over the weekend…
Mark Levin: Oh, thank you.
Steve: …I got my wife, I got my wife to tape for me, or TIVO it, and she watched it. And she really enjoyed it. She’s not big on politics or anything, and she gets sick of hearing me talk about it, but it was funny ‘cause she said “He is so calm, Steve.” He was, she was trying to do a little wifey/husband training? And…
Mark Levin: Uh huh.
Steve: she said “He is so calm, and he gets his point across. He didn’t raise his voice, or get upset…
Mark Levin: [chuckles]
Steve: …or anything!”
Mark Levin: [breaks out into laughter]
Steve: …and I laughed so hard. I said “How do you, uh, where do you think I learned how to yell?” [laughs] “I just listen to Mark.” And she knows you’re my hero, I go around quotin’ ya, and tellin’ everybody to listen to ya, and…
Mark Levin: Well, that’s great.
Steve: she just … to get me to calm down a little, and I said you just need to listen to Mark. [laughs]
Mark Levin: Well, thank you, uh…well listen, you know what, this is called passion, just remind her it’s passion, you know, and um…what was truly exceptional about the Hannity program, number one, the man has enormous class and decency, and number two, he was asking me questions because he wanted me to inform the public about what I’d written, and to engage the studio audience. And notice we didn’t have a bunch of left-wing bomb throwers just yelling and talking over people. There were conversations actually occurring, did you notice that?
Steve: Yes, there was no crazy, I mean a lot of times he’s got the left wingers on there, and it’s just, kind, it’s almost funny to watch, but that was so interesting and…and it didn’t get me upset, and it just, I just wanted to listen to it over and over and absorb every second of it, and every bit of information, it…it’s just brilliant, Mark, I, you know I hope when um…we’ve got President Cruz, he has the wisdom to make you his chief of staff or vice-president.
Mark Levin: No, no no no no no. And he’s got a great chief of staff, by the way. No, I…I do what I do, and uh, and he will do a great job should he be president. Thank you for your call my friend. And uh, I’m so sick of these birthers. I was going to tell you about this, uh, incident. Just a wonderful group of people, uh, we were in Bookends, Ridgewood, New Jersey, and everyone was respectful until…and it was hot outside, it got hot, hotter than uh originally forecast and it was a very long line, and you know we try to go through it quickly out of respect for everybody in line, but I also try to be respectful to everybody in line. Um…but this fella [breathes out] gets in my face and first of all he points to some obscure note on page I don’t know whatever and he said [cough] excuse me folks, and he says “You were wrong about this, you were wrong about”, and honestly I, I, I didn’t have time to read it, and I’ll go back and check it, if I’m wrong about it I’ll fix it, and that happens sometimes in these books when you’re going into the notes, you might put a word when you mean another word, or a state when you mean another state, so I’m going to check it out, I just haven’t had time. And then he goes, he says uh “And Ted Cruz is not eligible to be president. He’s not a natural-born Citizen.” And I thought to myself, you know I, this is not a subject that I have studied so thoroughly, but he’s born of a mother who is an American citizen. Doesn’t that make him a natural-born Ci… “No, but he was in Canada when he was born!” Okay, but she wasn’t Canadian, she was an American citizen! She was an American citizen. And so, the issue isn’t what the Constitution says in that regard, the issue is how do we interpret that. And the way I interpret it is, his mother’s an American citizen, so he’s an American citizen! That’s not a constitutional issue, that’s an interpretive issue… or, a statutory issue if Congress has passed some law subsequent to that to enforce that provision of the Constitution. So, the face of the Constitution isn’t terribly helpful. If he was born of non-citizens in a foreign country that would be easy, and there’s a lot of easy cases. So the guy gets in my face, and he starts pointing and pointing, and I looked at him and I pointed back, and I cursed, unfortunately, but the, because, uh you know, he was…he was a nutjob. And I thought to myself: Why do you come here and do that? Is this, is this sort of the way you…you excite yourself or something? No. So, I just want you folks to know who like Ted Cruz. I…I assume they’re going to do this to Rubio, or some of these other people too, whether you like ‘em or not for president I’m just making a point, but now this has become an entire industry. And of course [chuckles] Ted Cruz [laughs], he immediately issued today or yesterday his long form birth certificate. Now, some of this is probably coming from the left. So now they’re the birthers. But some of it’s coming from others, too. People just get obsessed, or conspiratorial, and there’s no end to it, on a matter like this, and there’s nothing I can say or point to that’s going to change their mind. But in my view there’s no doubt about it that he’s eligible for president, should he choose to run, just as I believe McCain was eligible for president, when he ran. So…that’s my opinion! You may not like it… But what particularly bothered me about this guy…he was disrespectful in his conduct to everybody else standing there. They were pleasant, talking to each other, you know…listening, watching and so forth. I’m a big boy; I’ve seen this and a thousand times worse. But he was quite obnoxious. He’s the only one…oh no there was another guy, had a prob, wha wha, he what…he had a problem, he was screaming upstairs, I don’t know what he was screamin’ about. It was kind of eventful there in New Jersey. No, there wasn’t anything like that in New York, was there boys? [Staff: No. Peaceful in ji…you know in Long Island] It was peaceful on Long Island! [chuckles] But is was peaceful in New Jersey, too. It really, really was. It was just terrific. If you could have seen that line, well, actually you can. We have the uh video, and this is just the start of the day with the line. It got longer and longer at uh… at Book Review in Long Island if you want to take a look on MarkLevinShow.com or MarkLevi…oh there is now? The…the New Jersey line? Okay. Both lines. On MarkLevinShow.com, are they both on the social sites too? Or…just the Long Island. But we’ll put the other one up later so some of you can see yourselves, too. Alright. GoldLine!
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(further information and videos at: http://queenofliberty.com/2013/08/14/mark-levin-rolls-out-his-new-book/)
Each and every clause of our constitution is a rejection of common law.
The term “natural born citizen” is alien to common law; they had native born subjects. At the time natural born citizen was understood to mean one that was a citizen by birth regardless of where he was born because both parents were citizens.
“If the laws in effect at the time of your birth make you a citizen of the United States, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.”
If the laws in effect at the time of your birth make you a natural born citizen of the United States, then you are legally a natural born citizen. This was the case 1790-1795
If the laws in effect at the time of your birth make you a citizen of the United States, then you are legally a citizen. This has been the case since 1795, and is the case currently.
“Levin flunks Constitution 101 by misinterpreting Natural Born....our Founding Fathers put that in there so we would not have foreigners ruling the US....like the foreigners ruling Great Britain at the time...King George III was German”
Bravo! Always a forgotten point in a historical discussion.
FWIW, Levin has forgotten more Constitutional history than you will ever know. If I have a choice between an interpretation by Mark Levin and one by SeminoleCounty, I think I would put a lot more stock in the opinion of Mark Levin.
Levin was also Obama Supporter on the Eligibility issue....and GOP refusing to make Obama Eligibility a main issue actively aided Obama in 2008 and 2012
Levin has always taken the position that Obama was born in Hawaii. So far there has not been any judicial finding that he was born anywhere else and the State of Hawaii has certified his birth, so for all legal intents and purposes, Obama was born a Citizen of the United States in accordance with the laws in effect at the time of his birth.
That doesn't mean he really wasn't born in Kenya and that there was a fraud committed, but for all legal intents and purposes it is recognized that Obama was born in Hawaii.
Now begone TROLL!
So Vlad Putin knocking up a Hawaiian hooker more than 35 years ago works for you?
Ok, then.
Yes...Levin has been quite rude to callers when Obama Eligibility is discussed. Quite telling for someone who brags about being a Constitutional scholar (the term lawyers use when they do not practice)
I would not trust anyone who claims to defend Cruz on eligibility that would not challenge Obama on his
“Obama was born a Citizen of the United States in accordance with the laws in effect at the time of his birth.”
Stipulated. Article II mandates a person be a “natural born citizen”.
“We cannot adopt their definitions because we have none of their kind of population. We have no “subjects,” and they have no citizens.”
Someone should have reminded President Washington,
“Gentlemen:
While I now receive with much satisfaction your congratulations on my being called, by an unanimous vote, to the first station in my country ...
“...And may the members of your society in America, animated alone by the pure spirit of Christianity, and still conducting themselves as the faithful subjects of our free government, enjoy every temporal and spiritual felicity.”
“G. Washington”
Apparently Massachusetts didn’t get the message that they were not to use the term “natural born subject” anymore,
In 1786, the Massachusetts legislature passed “AN ACT FOR NATURALIZING JONATHAN CURSON AND WILLIAM OLIVER” in which it was declared that Jonathan Curson and William Oliver “shall be deemed adjudged and taken to be free Citizens of this Commonwealth, and entitled to all the liberties, privileges and immunities of natural born citizens.
In 1787, the Massachusetts legislature passed “AN ACT FOR NATURALIZING WILLIAM MARTIN AND OTHERS.” in which it was declared that William Martin and Others, “shall be deemed, adjudged and taken to be free Citizens of this Commonwealth, and entitled to all the liberties, priviledges and immunities of natural born subjects.”
Troll? Hardly. I stated the obvious.
Here is the law by which Cruz is a citizen Pub. L. 82-414 § 301(a)(7)
Here is a link. Go to page 236.
What works is the law. If Congress defines a person as a citizen at birth, then he is a Natural Born Citizen. If they are not born a citizen then they are a Naturalized Citizen. There are no other forms of Citizenship.
Now are you going to continue your efforts to Destroy Ted Cruz? Is that what works for you!
TROLL!
Yes, that Levin...he's a total greenhorn when it comes to the Constitution. /s
That describes Cruz. By RIGHT he is a citizen of the USA at birth. It is automatic. You've stated your conclusion and I've stated min.
However, this argument is extremely premature. Cruz is not running for President.
He IS, however, trying to run an anti-ObamaCare campaign. His enemies have discovered that conservatives opposing obamacare love to nitpick arcane little bits of law more than they love to fight against obamacare.
They love to fight to the circular death squad over things that are 3.5 years in the future
If there is something in the Constitution that prevents Cruz from leading a fight against ObamaCare, then please point it out. If not, let's postpone this particular argument until sometime in the summer of 2015.
Right now we'd do better fighting against ObamaCare.
Your argument is very much attuned to the two sons of deposed Muslim Egyptian President Morsi who were born in the USA. According to how some would apply Constitutional requirements these sons are eligible based only on place of birth. To a more applicable take on the Constitution and It’s background the guys lack the qualification of parentage. As to parentage it appears that many persons deem the mother’s status trumping the the father’s status. I don’t believe that goes one way or the other and I believe that is why ‘born of parentS’ was the mindset of the Founders. Of course, I do not take a lawyer’s word as necessarily better/truer than the actual words of the Constitution. Even the august members of the SC twist the words to their favor.
In 1786, the Massachusetts legislature passed “AN ACT FOR NATURALIZING JONATHAN CURSON AND WILLIAM OLIVER” in which it was declared that Jonathan Curson and William Oliver “shall be deemed adjudged and taken to be free Citizens of this Commonwealth, and entitled to all the liberties, privileges and immunities of natural born citizens.
In 1787, the Massachusetts legislature passed “AN ACT FOR NATURALIZING WILLIAM MARTIN AND OTHERS.” in which it was declared that William Martin and Others, “shall be deemed, adjudged and taken to be free Citizens of this Commonwealth, and entitled to all the liberties, priviledges and immunities of natural born subjects.”
Prior to the passage of the US Constitution and deeming them so by law and not by “natural” means.
Thank you for making our point for us.
Depends on the job. If pop works for the government of France, the child is not a US citizen as he's considered subject to the jurisdiction of France. Not just employees with immunity, but any government employee. Military here on training, counsilate employee, trade representative etc. Legal opinions have defined jurisdiction as absolute, complete jurisdiction, political rights and military obligations would apply to them. Based on that 19th century definition, closer to the 14th Amendment than todays courts, I'd suggest that it's a myth the 14th confers "birthright" citizenship. Heck, another law was needed to confer citizenship to non-naturalized Indians, irrespective of their place of birth, on or off the reservation.
I'm not going to bother with the Cruz issue
What works is the law. If Congress defines a person as a citizen at birth, then he is a Natural Born Citizen. If they are not born a citizen then they are a Naturalized Citizen. There are no other forms of Citizenship.
Nope. You should read up.
Troll? Not hardly.
Your position is completely without legal merit and your intention apparently is to divide this forum and destroy Ted Cruz.
BEGONE TROLL!
In my book you are.
Now begone.
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