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muawiyah: "This 4,000 years ago event occurs at the same time as the beginning of the Monsoon Winds into India..."

According to this source:

"Strengthening of the Asian monsoon has been linked to the uplift of the Tibetan Plateau after the collision of the Indian sub-continent and Asia around 50 million years ago.[8]

Many geologists believe the monsoon first became strong around 8 million years ago based on records from the Arabian Sea and the record of wind-blown dust in the Loess Plateau of China.
More recently, plant fossils in China and new long-duration sediment records from the South China Sea led to a timing of the monsoon starting 15–20 million years ago and linked to early Tibetan uplift.[9] "

muawiyah: "...also coincident with a little known event ~ Lake Erie shrank to its present size.
Before this time it extended nearly all the way to the Western boundary of present day Indiana.
Something happened and the water level dropped, the lake shrank, and bingo it took on its current appearance. "

According to this source:

"Lake Erie in its current form is less than 4,000 years old

a short time geologically speaking.
Before this, the land on which the lake now sits has gone through several complex stages.
A large lowland basin formed over two million years ago as a result of an eastern flowing river that existed well before the Pleistocene ice ages.
This ancient drainage system was destroyed by the first major glacier in the area...

"As many as three glaciers advanced and retreated over the land causing temporary lakes to form in the time periods in between each of them.
Because each lake had a different volume of water their shorelines rested at differing elevations.
The last of these lakes to form, Lake Warren, existed between about 13,000 and 12,000 years ago.
It was deeper than the current Lake Erie, so its shoreline existed about eight miles (13 km) inland from the modern one."

Current Niagara Falls formed around 10,000 years ago.

muawiyah: "It's probably safe to say that there was a lengthy period of droughts around the world.
Most likely seasons got shorter and the world cooled."

According to this source:

"The Earth has been in an interglacial period known as the Holocene for more than 11,000 years."

But so long as we've properly identified your words as mythology and not science, then I'm perfectly happy with what you've said here.

You misunderstood the point on the monsoon ~ wasn't about monsoonal flow but about the actual flow of those winds OVER the Souvrn' half of the Indian subcontinent. Whatever happened even 20,000 years ago is irrelevant to the point ~ which was ~ that at the beginning of the period denoted ~ lasts 4000 years ~ the monsoon winds from the West just blew straight across Southern india from Arabia to SE Asia. But then something caused them to change and they blew further North allowing what had been a year round monsoon season to disappear and be replaced with an intermitent monsoon season. That reduced the annual rainfall substantially drying out much of the then inpenetrable jungle, and allowing human beings to begin serious settlement in the South.

Up until about 4000 years ago ALL the Dravidian speaking people lived in the North. Then, with settlement possible in the South they moved there. Today we think of them all as living in Southern India.

Note, the big cats did great in the jungle in the South ~ and until the area dried out humans could not compete with them. China seems to have had some problem along that line up until the end of the Younger Dryas ~ then the climate changed, the cats languished, and people moved in. But up until that time people lived West of what is considered modern China.