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Gun Confiscation -- Guns For My Neighbors
Gun Confiscation ^ | January 17, 2013 | Phil Burns

Posted on 01/19/2013 3:59:53 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

In a fortuitous Shot Show meeting in the Press Room, I had an excellent conversation with Robert Farago, publisher of “The Truth About Guns”, he proposed an interesting idea from an East Coast perspective:

“If a storm rolls through my area and things get bad enough that looters are a serious risk, my neighbors not only do not have the skills to protect our neighborhood – they don’t have the tools.”

Storing food specifically for neighbors who do not prepare is something we already advise and teach – the idea of storing firearms that your neighbors can use to help defend your neighborhood is a new perspective for me (of course, in my neighborhood, everyone has an envious arsenal).

So, what parameters need to be considered with this idea? Consider that these neighbors likely know nothing about firearms, potentially have never shot or even held a firearm and certainly may have no training at all. How can you incorporate all that into a plan to be able to relatively safely hand out firearms to your neighbors to man a line to keep looters out?

Robert’s suggestions include a revolver so they don’t have to figure out how to load magazines or anything complicated and a heavy trigger pull so they don’t accidentally discharge their weapon. For longer range work he proposes a lever-action .22 with a tube feeder. This will allow them to utilize the firearms easily with minimal instruction and basically turn it into a point and shoot experience.

Many of you will share his perspective of having such inexperienced neighbors, fortunately I don’t have any experience with that viewpoint to really expand on the situation other than stories I’ve heard/read...

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; History; Society
KEYWORDS: banglist; guncontrol; preppers; riots; secondamendment; shtf
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To: Chickensoup

Sanitation workers broke into someone’s home?


21 posted on 01/19/2013 5:39:29 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Sanitation workers broke into someone’s home?

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In this neighborhood the trash trucks have little mini trucks that go into the back yaards, get the trashcans, bring them to the

truck, empty them and put them back in the back yards. When I was young the men had two wheeled rollign carts to do this, these men were all well compensated both by the town and in gifts. I remember my family leaving out nice fat envelopes for them. In retrospect, probably protection monies.


22 posted on 01/19/2013 5:44:51 PM PST by Chickensoup (200 million unarmed people killed in the 20th century by Leftist Totalitarian Fascists)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If your neighbors aren’t armed, they are probably Democrats. I don’t think arming them is a good idea.

After four days without food, they are likely to sell themselves into slavery to you, and you can then get some stuff accomplished without the trying to tell you why you are wrong to think the way you do.


23 posted on 01/19/2013 6:04:47 PM PST by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Sounds like you need to do an inventory of your skills. Or something you like doing. As an example, my daughter liked to sew. She started sewing swim suits for friends and now is full time making suits for the women who do body building. She never leaves home and makes great income. My other daughter makes jewelry out of junk and just got back from Haiti setting up shops there that are now making them for her because she had orders she couldn’t keep up with. There’s gotta be something you could do. With the internet, Ebay, Craigs list etc there’s a market out there for most everything. Woodworking, carving, ceramics, painting, sewing (don’t laugh, I make my own shoes because I can’t find any that fit my polio affected feet) or any other sit down, do it on your own time work.


24 posted on 01/19/2013 6:13:52 PM PST by CynicalBear
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If anyone doesn’t see this comoing or take it seriously enough to get themselves armed, forget about them. Anyone lacking that initiative will always be a drag on the situation.


25 posted on 01/19/2013 6:14:29 PM PST by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off.)
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To: Hardastarboard

Thank you. I have truly been blessed.


26 posted on 01/19/2013 6:15:25 PM PST by CynicalBear
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To: CynicalBear

I’m reading a book about scanning items (don’t have a smart phone but aim to get one) and apps that tell you what that item is selling for on Amazon, e-bay, etc. and if you can make a profit on it, what the author refers to as arbitrage. My 1984 car isn’t cooperating with me (ignition went kaput a month ago) but that might be something I could do.


27 posted on 01/19/2013 6:23:54 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: CynicalBear
I can’t even imagine a neighbor who not only hasn’t prepared but has no protection for their family. My obligation is to inform them to prepare and defend themselves. Thinking I need to store food for them and supply a weapon for them is liberalism and not what I’m about. I’ll help those who tried to help themselves and band together but keep the socialistic attitude out of my preps and planning.

You completely missed the author's purpose here. He's not espousing socialism, he's preparing to have the extra supplies on hand to pay for a protection squad, and the means to arm them as well. I'd wager this guy would be around and kicking long after the short-sighted lone wolf types had fallen.

28 posted on 01/19/2013 6:27:37 PM PST by Melas (u)
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To: Hardastarboard

Thank you.


29 posted on 01/19/2013 6:28:56 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: Melas; CynicalBear

I’m guessing that the Korean shopkeepers in Los Angeles were passing out firearms left-and-right during the riots and not worrying about your skill level.


30 posted on 01/19/2013 6:31:22 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I am a big fan of firearms and firearms training (and an NRA-certified instructor), but after a crisis hits is not a time at which I would hand out weapons to those who don’t know how to shoot. I am more than willing to hand out ammo to certain neighbors who I know shoot, and I have the calibers they need, but I am not comfortable giving guns to unarmed and untrained neighbors.


31 posted on 01/19/2013 6:32:16 PM PST by Pollster1
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yep, I think the only test that day was climbing the ladder to the roof. If you could get up there and point a rifle in the general direction of the looters, you were good enough.


32 posted on 01/19/2013 6:33:20 PM PST by Melas (u)
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To: NonLinear

$7 apiece was a good price...Back then...But since then, inflation ya know?

But in this FUBO economy a guy’s gotta make a profit whnever he can...

Plus, he offered me cash money and I couldn’t resist...


33 posted on 01/19/2013 6:49:31 PM PST by elteemike (Light travels faster than sound...That's why so many people appear bright until you hear them speak!)
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To: Melas
>> I'd wager this guy would be around and kicking long after the short-sighted lone wolf types had fallen.<<

LOL I’d wager a smart prepper isn’t going to be a “lone wolf” nor will he be “short sighted”. And “this guy” you refer to having stored all those supplies and guns then giving them to his neighbors will be turned on by those neighbors who now have all the guns and supplies and no longer need him using up any of them.

34 posted on 01/19/2013 6:50:57 PM PST by CynicalBear
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To: Melas

Keep thinking outside the box and look for anything that interests you that you can do. You’re never to old to learn something. My grandfather was still carving wood in the nursing home at 92.


35 posted on 01/19/2013 6:53:57 PM PST by CynicalBear
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Those Koreans are a close nit group. They all knew each other and knew what to expect from each other. I had some Vietnamese friends when I lived in Texas and you wouldn’t believe how they would come together if needed. The did business with each other first and sold to outsiders.


36 posted on 01/19/2013 6:58:09 PM PST by CynicalBear
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To: Secret Agent Man
"i’am not arming neighbors who know nothing about guns, much less’who don’t know me. i don’t want bullets coming back at me from my own weapons"

I've been shooting for 40 years since I was in the Army. You, sir, have completely called it correct. I've thought about this many times. Whats stopping them from shooting me after I turn my back?

37 posted on 01/19/2013 7:32:39 PM PST by Lockbar (Quality Factory Loaded Ammunition ------ The New Gold)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Our advice to our neighbors is that we can warn you but we can’t feed you. Same with weapons.

Most likely people who have little or no experience with firearms will not have the stomach to use them anyway. They will get killed and the perps will take the firearms you handed out and then use them more effectively agains’t you.


38 posted on 01/19/2013 7:50:34 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Chickensoup
A number of years ago after a home invasion by trashmen which severely injured an elderly couple in my dad’s comfortable neighborhood, my father and two other older men went door to door to offer home defense classes to the neighbors. Many men and women took it up.
My father and his friends helped the neighbors purchase guns, taught them how to use them at the range, placed emergency signals in place at all the houses and I remember my father saying proudly: No one is unprotected in this neighborhood for blocks around.
Figuring that there are something like (upward of?) 30 million gun owners in America - and that there are something on the order of 15 thousand gun murders annually, I figure that there are about 20,000 gun owners here for each annual gun murder. Which says that people aren’t buying guns to commit violence - they buy guns to prevent violence.

IOW, complaining about the number of guns in America is as if a doctor would announce that because all his patients with infections had high white blood cell counts, he was developing a treatment to eliminate white blood cells from his patients’ bodies. There’s probably a way to do it - but it isn’t likely to make his patients any healthier.

Or it is as if I were to challenge you over your owning a fire insurance policy on your house, and also owning matches. Doesn’t that prove that you intend to commit insurance fraud? No, it means that you are prudent to insure your house - and you have other reasons to have matches than to commit arson. Whether those reasons justify whatever danger to your house that the matches represent is a prudential issue, not a moral one.


39 posted on 01/20/2013 10:36:33 AM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which “liberalism" coheres is that NOTHING actually matters except PR.)
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