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To: Dogbert41

Could you explain how Project Gunrunner was high treason? I haven’t been following this issue closely, but from what little I have read, this was a plan to supply and track guns to Mexico with the goal of shutting down illegal gun sales. How does this relate to stripping Americans of their 2nd Amendment rights?


17 posted on 06/20/2012 8:49:50 PM PDT by CitizenUSA (Why celebrate evil? Evil is easy. Good is the goal worth striving for.)
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To: CitizenUSA

I’ll take a stab at an explanation....Holder said some years ago that he wanted to reduce the 2nd amendment rights of Americans (in so many words)....and I believe there is some proof that this F&F was an effort to IMPLICATE American guns so that the American people would be so outraged that they would WANT to limit guns...in America. (I probably don’t have this correct, but that is MY understanding.)


24 posted on 06/20/2012 9:01:39 PM PDT by goodnesswins (What has happened to America?)
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To: CitizenUSA

See post 7


25 posted on 06/20/2012 9:03:01 PM PDT by o-n-money
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To: CitizenUSA
Could you explain how Project Gunrunner was high treason? I haven’t been following this issue closely, but from what little I have read, this was a plan to supply and track guns to Mexico with the goal of shutting down illegal gun sales. How does this relate to stripping Americans of their 2nd Amendment rights?

Mexico is a black hole of corruption. Their police can be bribed with a six pack and a cheap prostitutes. Ya think they were able to track weapons into that black hole once they crossed the border?

27 posted on 06/20/2012 9:05:05 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: CitizenUSA
Could you explain how Project Gunrunner was high treason? I haven’t been following this issue closely, but from what little I have read, this was a plan to supply and track guns to Mexico with the goal of shutting down illegal gun sales. How does this relate to stripping Americans of their 2nd Amendment rights?

In addition, I could post pics of lots of dead Mexicans, all shot up in the streets down there...When media starts doing their nightly news, and connects or alleges all these dead people were killed with U.S. guns, it's an excuse for a controlling U.S. Government to enact much stricter gun laws.

33 posted on 06/20/2012 9:12:16 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: CitizenUSA

Easy.

Obama had already made a well known promise to the Brady Bunch (Brady Anti Gun group) that he had plans to do what he could to help advance their agenda.

This whole thing was orchestrated in order to create a problem supposedly originating in America and American gun suppliers,

which would then be a pretext Obama could point to in order to pass more anti-gun legislation, and essentially re-instate the Brady Assault weapons ban law. Probably even more stricter as he’d have a phony “crisis” he could exploit.

So he created this problem by having the government acquire guns and let them be trafficked to criminals in Mexico, so that he could say “Here’s the problem, it’s originating in the US, and we need to clamp down on gun rights to fix it.”

And it would have been far harsher than the original Brady bill/Assault weapons bans. Look what his solution was for the 10% of people who didn’t have health care. You are damn certain it would be worse.


46 posted on 06/20/2012 9:45:22 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: CitizenUSA

F&F has already resulted in a new firearms regulation. Dealers in border states are required to report purchases of 5 or more rifles to the ATF.


55 posted on 06/20/2012 9:57:08 PM PDT by Nachoman (I HOPE we CHANGE presidents.)
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To: CitizenUSA

Documents: ATF used “Fast and Furious” to make the case for gun regulations

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-31727_162-57338546-10391695/documents-atf-used-fast-and-furious-to-make-the-case-for-gun-regulations/?tag=re1.channel


57 posted on 06/20/2012 10:03:29 PM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (Resurrect the House Committee on Un-American Activities (HUAC)...before there is no America!)
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