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The Phantom Menace: was it THAT bad?
MSN UK ^ | 02/10/2012 | Jonathan Crocker and Neil Smith

Posted on 02/13/2012 8:42:27 PM PST by nickcarraway

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To: Waryone
wondering how an entire planet could elect a fourteen year old "Queen" and leader.

Perhaps she promised them "Hope" and "Change."

81 posted on 02/14/2012 7:12:06 AM PST by tnlibertarian (Selfishly stealing other people's witticisms for taglines since 2002.)
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To: kevkrom
To that end, the animated Clone Wars series they're running on Cartoon Network is, in my opinion, easily the best Star Wars anything that's been made since Empire.

How does the fourth season add up? Would it be worth getting in iTunes?
82 posted on 02/14/2012 7:17:11 AM PST by RandallFlagg (Look for the union label, then buy elsewhere.)
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To: Future Snake Eater
Harry S. Plinkett sure thinks it was THAT bad. It was the most disappointing thing since his son...

I have to admit to having Red Letter Media as one of my guilty pleasures.

83 posted on 02/14/2012 7:32:12 AM PST by Brass Lamp
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To: Future Snake Eater
Look at what BioWare did in a few cinematics to preview "The Old Republic."

Yup. I get more excited about "Old Republic" than what Lucas poops out. It's my opinion that the Star Wars series fell apart at ROTJ. When I heard that Leia was Luke's sister, that pretty much deflated my love for the movies.
84 posted on 02/14/2012 7:35:11 AM PST by Thorliveshere
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To: RandallFlagg
How does the fourth season add up?

I've only half-seen a couple of episodes so far, but they were pretty good. You get to see the clones as a bit more human and less as an organic counterpart to the droid army, as they deal with the conflicts between following orders and doing what they think is the right thing.

85 posted on 02/14/2012 7:42:11 AM PST by kevkrom (Note to self: proofread, then post. It's better that way.)
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To: Apollo5600

Yes, the Midichlorians absolutely ruined the mystical connotations of the Force.

It was no longer “Do or do not, there is no try”, where belief in your abilities and a strong connection to the Force was all anybody needed to move a rock, or an entire spaceship.

Now it was “sorry, your midichlorian count just isn’t sufficient to move an object of that mass.”

Idiotic.


86 posted on 02/14/2012 7:44:08 AM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: Brass Lamp

Oh yeah. I’ve seen all of the Plinkett reviews. When I first saw the Phantom Menace review, I was astounded at how well he nailed exactly what I’d been thinking.

And that bit he does with the background Star Trek officer asking questions about the logical flaws in everyone’s plans never ceases to send me into hysterics. I don’t even know why, it’s just damned funny.


87 posted on 02/14/2012 8:07:08 AM PST by Future Snake Eater (Don't stop. Keep moving!)
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To: martin_fierro
Guess who thought last weekend, and wrongly, “No WAY can JarJar Binks suck as hard in 3-D as he did in 2-D”?

::shudder::

I can only imagine! Meesa gonna have nightmares.

88 posted on 02/14/2012 8:18:52 AM PST by Constitution Day
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To: krb

It is amazing to me how much that review has shaped my view of storytelling.

Stories should usually follow a classic narrative pattern with an protagonist people can identify with.

Characters should have defining characteristics above and beyond what they do and what they look like.

Action sequences should have an element of danger to them for dramatic tension - otherwise it is just guys dancing around with light swords knocking down special effects.


89 posted on 02/14/2012 9:04:49 AM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: SgtBob

I’d be interested to know what some of the common innacuracies are. I can’t say I know enough of the details to respond to them.

The Red Tails movie was definitely historical fiction, not documentary. The plot was about a specific group of fictional flyers who happened to be Tuskegee Airmen, but but the Tuskegee Airmen as a whole were secondary.

The aerial combat scenes were spectaculaer to watch, but they were very sanitized. The Captain starts losing it over a couple of KIAs. A few bombers are shot down, but in historical accounts we normally hear about massive attrition rates for bomber uinits. The Red Tail kill to loss rates were unrealistice.

Despite the flaws, and I don’t know that they were really flaws, the movie was very good.

I know this rthread is supposed to be about Phantom Menace, but I’d rather talk about anything else.


90 posted on 02/14/2012 9:30:36 AM PST by Gil4 (Sometimes it's not low self-esteem - it's just accurate self-assessment.)
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To: LukeL
Because they included dumb things like Jabba the Hutt, then in episode II they made Boba Fett a major character, they had the Pod race just to make a Pod Racing video game. The entire series was made to make the die hard Star Wars nerds go crazy by explaining the origin of every character, and also so they could release dozens more action figures and vehicles.

The whole Anakin Skywalker plot was stupid, and full of holes. They end the movie with Anakin's mom still being held by the slave owner, which turns into an issue in the next episode. An organization like the Jedi couldn't be bothered to send somebody back to get Anakin's mom after they get off the planet?

91 posted on 02/14/2012 10:02:34 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. - George Orwell)
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To: PapaBear3625
An organization like the Jedi couldn't be bothered to send somebody back to get Anakin's mom after they get off the planet?

To be fair, the Jedi were portrayed (intentionally or not) as arrogant and short-sighted. In fact, they fairly well deserved what they got in the end.

92 posted on 02/14/2012 10:08:52 AM PST by kevkrom (Note to self: proofread, then post. It's better that way.)
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To: Norm Lenhart

You owe an apology to every Basset Hound that ever lived.


93 posted on 02/14/2012 10:55:53 AM PST by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: Williams

I took “No, there is another” as Yoda only knew.

And OW does tell Luke after this, once he was told by Yoda. That was my take.


94 posted on 02/14/2012 4:10:52 PM PST by Fledermaus (I can't fiddle so I'll just open a cold beer as I watch America burn.)
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