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To: Kevmo
1. You won’t have hot fusion jet packs and cars for many of the same reasons you don’t have fission powered jet packs and cars.

***And yet, that doesn’t stop naysayers & seagulls from leading off with “wake me up when I can buy a LENR car” or some bilgewater comment like that.

I have never made any comment like that. I'll be satisfied with any evidence that shows Rossi isn't running a scam--proof that he really has cold fusion running. I've even described the scientific evidence that is needed and sufficient to support such a claim.

2. The only proof of a customer is Rossi’s word—and we already know how reliable that is.

***Then it makes it all the more easier to prove it’s a fraud. Eventually either he gets caught or it’s real. No middle ground any more with you folks claiming these are shills.

I think the scam is about to be blown wide open. Rossi's upping the ante, as it were, with talk of a customer of which there is no concrete evidence, indicates that the scam may almost be exposed. Another hint of the scam's entering its end days is on the site that supposedly is taking orders. You can see on the site (I think it is ecat.com) that a 1 MW generator is available, and a 5 MW will soon be available--but home generators are still being developed. In other words, the generators most likely to sell in large volume aren't being offered yet... I wonder why (that's a rhetorical question).

Publishing in a peer-reviewed paper would protect the intellectual property.

***You seem to come from a completely different planet than the one that real businesses operate on. I hope it’s cozy there. One of the threads I recently posted was quoting the president of Defkalion proudly claiming to have stolen Rossi’s formula.

No, I come from the world of real scientists. Where publishing in a peer-review journal confers legal property rights to the process being described, including if it has commercial application. Where legal battles lasting over a decade have been fought based on the content of peer-review literature--not patents--over the issue of intellectual property. I won't, at this time, go into the details of one such case that I heard about first hand from one of the defendents, but I will say that the lawsuit was not decided based on patents, but based on original publication. That is also how Nobel Prize recipients are determined. Patents, in my world of scientists, come AFTER peer-reviewed publication.

127 posted on 12/01/2011 4:08:23 AM PST by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: exDemMom
Other scientists in the world of pharmaceuticals wouldn't agree with you. There rights come after the patent is approved and not before. The consequence is they don't tell anyone about it until they get it ready to test under FDA supervision

That can be a real problem for a drug or medical process that takes a number of years to test for approval ~ you might end up with an exclusive marketing period of just a few years.

It's enough of a problem for those scientists they they've repeatedly asked Congress for relief on duration of patents.

134 posted on 12/01/2011 10:09:43 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: exDemMom

Patents, in my world
***Exactly. You come from a different world. This is the business world, not the realm of scientists.


140 posted on 12/01/2011 7:23:43 PM PST by Kevmo (When a thing is owned by everybody nobody gives value to it. Communism taught us this. ~A. Rossi)
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