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DOT makes workers take down flag
Quad City Times ^ | 11/11/11 | Barb Ickes

Posted on 11/12/2011 6:45:56 AM PST by Winstons Julia

The surreal part of the article:

About 30 minutes before Brandl ordered Old Glory removed from its elevated perch, Snyder said the bridge workers intended to take it down after the holiday weekend.

But Brandl said safety could not wait. "It was not authorized, and we do not need the distraction," he said, adding, "I can't imagine who it would offend, but I do not want controversy."


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Society
KEYWORDS: americanflag; dot; flag; oldglory
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1 posted on 11/12/2011 6:45:59 AM PST by Winstons Julia
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To: Winstons Julia
"I can't imagine who it would offend, but I do not want controversy."

And right there, in a nutshell, is the problem.

2 posted on 11/12/2011 6:49:15 AM PST by ozark hilljilly (Tagline typed on a closed keyboard. Do not attempt. Your mileage may vary.)
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To: ozark hilljilly

It’s so sad that you kind of laugh bittersweetly.


3 posted on 11/12/2011 6:50:29 AM PST by Winstons Julia (Hello OWS? We don't need a revolution like China's; China needs a revolution like OURS.)
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To: ozark hilljilly

“Controversy” brings lawsuits. Maybe we need a law to regulate lawyers ....


4 posted on 11/12/2011 6:51:38 AM PST by Ken522
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To: Winstons Julia
I've been around a lot of construction and every (especially) high iron job has a flag.

I've been around a lot of drilling rigs and every rig has a flag

The frack tanks have flags and a few of us had flags between our teactor and the trailor (sand can)

I've passed a few flags in my travels and I have given a military salute and held it 'til I passed by.


This article is just another piece of evidence varifying how deep the enemy is embedded in our culture/politics and lives.

5 posted on 11/12/2011 6:52:52 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: Winstons Julia

Brandl, The Man Without a Country


6 posted on 11/12/2011 6:57:31 AM PST by bunkerhill7
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To: Winstons Julia

The article says “IDOT”.

I think they misspelled it: “IDiOT” seems more appropriate.

And the iron workers quiesced? Pu$$ies.


7 posted on 11/12/2011 7:03:15 AM PST by QBFimi (When gunpowder speaks, beasts listen.)
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To: QBFimi

That last word there was my exact thought.


8 posted on 11/12/2011 7:07:31 AM PST by Winstons Julia (Hello OWS? We don't need a revolution like China's; China needs a revolution like OURS.)
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To: QBFimi

Whoops - acquiesced


9 posted on 11/12/2011 7:09:35 AM PST by QBFimi (When gunpowder speaks, beasts listen.)
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To: ozark hilljilly

I bet if it were the gay (fag) rights flag all would be ok.


10 posted on 11/12/2011 7:14:33 AM PST by Mouton (Voting is an opiate of the electorate. Nothing changes no matter who wins..)
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To: knarf
A co-worker of mine, Marine vet from Desert Storm, yesterday sent an email to everyone in our company (a few hundred people):

“this is the day for thanks and a day to remember the ones that that made it home and the ones that gave all for their country..it is my belief that all veterans should have the day off with pay. this is the day that i remember my father who fought in Vietnam and did not make it home and the Marines that i fought with and bled with. some of whom did not make it home. the price for freedom is not free.thanks to all that have and are serving for this great country of ours. god bless america. Cpl. xxxxxx x. xxxxxxxxx USMC retired”

Shortly thereafter the plant manager took him aside and said, in effect, if he ever sent out an email like that again he would be summarily fired. Probably the part about “day off with pay” set him off. The email “to all” reached up to the highest corporate levels.

11 posted on 11/12/2011 7:24:35 AM PST by Fester Chugabrew (minds change)
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To: Winstons Julia

Too bad they didn’t simply reposition the flag to the Illinois side of the span and tell Brandl to go buy a vowel (in slightly harsher language).


13 posted on 11/12/2011 7:32:34 AM PST by NonValueAdded (At 4 AM, it is a test; at 2 PM, it is a demonstration)
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14 posted on 11/12/2011 7:37:05 AM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Fester Chugabrew

...he should write another email referring to the first email and resend it explaining he meant for him alone and if he upset anyone previously he was truly sorry and because he was threaten with termination he thought it best to let everyone know and wanted to clear it up.....

(now you know why I’ve been suspended a few times....of course recovering pay at a later date))


15 posted on 11/12/2011 7:40:42 AM PST by Doogle ((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: Fester Chugabrew

Certainly wish I had the plant manager’s email address. He would get an e-mail from me that would really blister his butt from the get-go. What a dimwitted jerk he must be!


16 posted on 11/12/2011 7:45:41 AM PST by geezerwheezer (get up boys, we're burnin' daylight!!!)
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To: ozark hilljilly
And right there, in a nutshell, is the problem.

Very true. Somewhere along the line "land of opportunity" got perverted into "land free of offense." Well excuse me people, no-one ever promised you a life where no-one would offend your delicate sensibilities. In fact, such a promise cannot be made, well, cannot be kept.

In short people, you are going to be offended. Guess what, you are going to offend others, intentionally or not. Get over it you worthless pantiwastes. Go cry to your mother, 'cause I guarantee you no-one else really gives a damn.

As to the specific case here. If anyone, at any time, any day, and in any setting, is offended by our flag ... fine. The border exits are open, you are free to leave, but old glory is not coming down to suit your tastes - ever.

17 posted on 11/12/2011 7:50:45 AM PST by ThunderSleeps (Stop obama now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: Fester Chugabrew

Care to name the company so I can be sure I never buy anything from them?

Incidentally, the privately owned company I worked for used to hold a company meeting on Veterans Day and honor all the vets. They sold out to a venture capital firm out of Boston. Most of the vets got terminated and replaced by kids just out of college, They no longer honor the few who are left.


18 posted on 11/12/2011 7:51:40 AM PST by anoldafvet (Sarah, you broke a lot of our hearts but we still love you.)
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To: Winstons Julia

Who knew our flag was a distraction?


19 posted on 11/12/2011 7:54:38 AM PST by stocksthatgoup (Common sense although common knowledge is seldom common practice.)
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To: Doogle

“reply to all”:
Cpl. xxxxxx x. xxxxxxxxx -

Thank you for your remarks regarding Veterans Day. It is clearly a matter of the highest import that men like yourself have, thoughout our history, sacrificed greatly to keep us free.

As for a day off, whether with or without pay I believe it is best for each of us to honor the day in our own way while using the very freedoms we enjoy. As such, you are free to take the day off with pay by making it one of your vacation days. I’ve done that on September 11 a couple times. Understand, however, that whenever you miss a day here, you are missed.

Lastly, I see that you’ve communicated your remarks on a wide scale, including everyone in the company. This may be met with a some resistance inasmuch as the “send to all” function is reserved for matters pertaining to business. Should anyone confront you about this please understand it is simply a matter of discipline on a much smaller scale than you’ve endured as a soldier.

Regards,

xxxx x. xxxxx


20 posted on 11/12/2011 8:04:40 AM PST by Fester Chugabrew (minds change)
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