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If after Obama loses what if he gives blanket amnesty to all prisoners..

Posted on 09/21/2011 4:27:22 PM PDT by RVN Airplane Driver

It's becoming clear that Obama's chances for re-election are becoming nearly impossible given his track record. Most Americans agree he has done incredible damage to our country.....now the question is what kind of evil could he do on the way out of the door? How many criminals could he pardon? Do we need to change that perk? Given that the President has unlimited power with executive orders and recess appointments during his term in office. Should that be changed? Frankly, does the executive office have too much power, given the abuses of power we have witnessed?


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To: laweeks

Frankly, I’m not trusting Americans to get rid of the guy.
They elected Clinton twice even in the midst of all the scandal. Plus, the Republican party may split, giving us a third party. I expect a real Oklahoma situation if they need it for him to be elected again.


21 posted on 09/21/2011 5:04:06 PM PDT by Cowgirl
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To: RVN Airplane Driver

I worry he will appoint himself to the Supreme Court.


22 posted on 09/21/2011 5:07:09 PM PDT by Pinetop
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Team Clinton will be the 2012 Democrat nominee.

Not a chance. Obama will go down in a blaze of glory. But he will go down. As would any other Democrat in 2012, and Clinton knows it.

23 posted on 09/21/2011 5:11:22 PM PDT by SoJoCo
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To: RVN Airplane Driver

Then he pardons all the prisoners. Not much we can do about it.


24 posted on 09/21/2011 5:13:00 PM PDT by SoJoCo
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To: RVN Airplane Driver

1. He can only pardon federal prisoners, not state.

2. He may be arrogant and have delusions of godhood, but he’s not an idiot. Not even Dennis Kucinich would think that pardoning ALL federal prisoners would be a good idea.


25 posted on 09/21/2011 5:13:33 PM PDT by GreenLanternCorps ("Barack Obama" is Swahili for "Jimmy Carter".)
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To: Turbo Pig
Executive orders can be overridden by Congress, IIRC

Executive orders can be cancelled by the next president. Congress isn't involved; separation of powers and all the rest.

26 posted on 09/21/2011 5:14:21 PM PDT by SoJoCo
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To: SoJoCo
Then he pardons all the prisoners. Not much we can do about it.

NOPE. He will only pardon the BLACK prisoners as a final FU to "typical white people" America that he hates so much. Then the hunting season begins.

27 posted on 09/21/2011 5:15:53 PM PDT by DCBryan1 (Forget the Lawyers....first kill the journalists! - Die Ritter, die sagen, nee)
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To: bilhosty

Could he do that? I mean, illegals haven’t been charged with anything so could he pardon someone who hasn’t even been convicted of a crime?


28 posted on 09/21/2011 5:18:08 PM PDT by Sister_T ("Calling ILLEGAL aliens "immigrants" is like calling shoplifters 'customers'!"-UCFRoadWarrior ><>)
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To: RVN Airplane Driver

29 posted on 09/21/2011 5:25:38 PM PDT by stormer
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To: RVN Airplane Driver

Sounds like an excellent reason to go hunting. Who could possibly object to putting down feral animals who attack humans with no justificstion?


30 posted on 09/21/2011 5:25:58 PM PDT by dools0007world
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To: RVN Airplane Driver

Well, if Obama loses I bet Michelle cleans out the White House fridges and takes all the food back to Chicago with her. OH, I shouldn’t have said that. I am just being catty!!!


31 posted on 09/21/2011 5:28:14 PM PDT by Squeeky ("Truth is so rare that it is delightful to tell it. " Emily Dickinson)
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To: Sister_T

The president can give clemency in an immigration case.


32 posted on 09/21/2011 5:52:26 PM PDT by bilhosty (Don' t tax people tax newsprint)
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To: Sister_T

Could he do that? I mean, illegals haven’t been charged with anything so could he pardon someone who hasn’t even been convicted of a crime?

See Ford-Nixon pardon


33 posted on 09/21/2011 6:06:09 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: RVN Airplane Driver

There are some answers here. To start with, the power to pardon only applies to federal prisoners, fortunately. And many such prisoners have entire federal bureaucracies that will “go to the mattresses” to keep them in prison.

As far as recess appointments go, the Republicans distrust Obama so much that they intend to keep the House of Representatives in (pro forma) session, which also forces the Senate to remain in session, specifically so that Obama will not be able to make any recess appointments for the rest of his term in office.

Executive Orders can be problematic, but they can be challenged by individual congressmen in court, and overturned. While the president may ignore orders by the Supreme Court (since Marbury v. Madison (1810)), this only applies to his personal actions. If he orders a subordinate to violate an order of the court, the Supremes may find that subordinate in contempt of court, which cannot by itself be pardoned by the president, since it is not a conviction. Even if he is sent to jail for six months to a year.

Perhaps the most troubling is the “Presidential Signing Statement”, a clearly unconstitutional act that is resulting in a slowly building constitutional crisis. After signing a bill passed by congress, the president adds a statement as to how he “interprets” the law (court function), and what parts he intends to enforce, and what parts he intends to ignore (legislative function). This needs to be ended permanently by an agreement between a conservative POTUS, the congress, and the SCOTUS.

More to the point, assuming a strong congressional Republican takeover in 2012, a LOT of federal agencies that have been running hog wild, like the EPA, the FCC, the USDA, the FDA, NASA and GISS, etc., must be brought to heel in a big sort of way. This amounts to firing many hundreds of thousands from the estimated 2.8 million non-military federal employees.


34 posted on 09/21/2011 6:42:59 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: Pinetop
I worry he will appoint himself to the Supreme Court

Not without a ghost writer he wouldn't .. hell, not without a ghost thinker for that matter.

It'd bring down the whole 'law background' charade/farce and subject the narcissistic demons to stresses they couldn't handle w/o the pøs coming totally unhinged.
(assuming that's not already the case)

/.02

35 posted on 09/21/2011 6:54:42 PM PDT by tomkat (para bellum)
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To: RVN Airplane Driver
I sense some serious paranoia floating around here. Obama isn't a Caesar or Pharaoh, you know. His executive powers are quite limited. And stop believing the media-generated nonsense that 99% of black America is in love with this moron and is willing to start a civil war for him. We are as sick if this embarrassing Kenyan fraud as you are. The thugs that you fear are a tiny minority of a minority, and they don't have the guts to wreak havoc outside their own little corners of hell. So that fancy .223 semi-automatic rifle that you bought for Armageddon isn't going to come in handy after all.
36 posted on 09/21/2011 8:15:18 PM PDT by jespasinthru (Proud member of the Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy.)
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To: RVN Airplane Driver

He will be thrown in jail for BRIBERY, violating the RICO act.


37 posted on 09/21/2011 8:28:28 PM PDT by Randy Larsen (I Stand With Sarah!)
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