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To: marron; curiosity; Raycpa; maxwellsmart_agent; Mortrey
"Question to Birthers about Grandma Dunham's Alleged Fraud"

I do not consider myself a birther but I've been fascinated by this matter.

For me, suspicions are valid because BO has just never released the bloody birth certificate. Here are some reasons:

1) There is no long form birth certificate issued by the state of Hawaii. State officials claim to have in their possession a "long form" BC but they are cute in not mentioning it to be a Hawaiian long form.

2) The BC has reference to Obama's religion as Muslim. Who knows, even though BHO Sr abandoned his mother, she was enough of an addle-brained liberal to put the baby's father's religion on the BC, just because it wasn't American.

I've always been fascinated by this little tidbit -- that one of BO's legal friends, back in 2006, prepared a law review article decrying the "natural born" birth requirement as being outdated and exclusive of many perfectly good American politicians. The article mentioned many names, including Governor Arnold S of California and the Governor of Michigan at the time, Jennifer Granholm, who was a Canadian at birth. Curiously, however, the article did NOT mention BHO, which is surprising since BHO had worked with that very law firm for years, and was already a United States Senator for the state of Illinois.

What does this mean? The attorney was inspired to write the law review article at BHO's request, perhaps with a sign because she thought he would never have the chance to run. Then, BHO was emboldened to run anyway, after getting the various institutions to help him with the shrouding of documents -- long form BC, college scholarship records, etc.

Sometimes, it's the little things that really make the most sense.

120 posted on 07/12/2010 8:28:25 AM PDT by tom h
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To: tom h
they are cute in not mentioning it to be a Hawaiian long form.

They are doubly cute. You'll remember "way back" the governor said she had seen the BC and said it was in a safe in her office. Recently she ammended that to say she hadn't seen it personally and its in a safe over at Records. The head of Records says they've got it but he/she hasn't seen it personally. At one point they were saying the old documents were shredded decades ago, but they've since backed off on that one, they are back to saying they have it but now no one wants to admit to having seen it.

122 posted on 07/12/2010 9:17:23 AM PDT by marron
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To: tom h
I do not consider myself a birther

I don't actually want to be one, but I've come to notice that when someone acts like they are hiding something, they usually are. What they are hiding may not be what you think they are hiding, but if they act like they are hiding something you can bet that they are.

123 posted on 07/12/2010 9:19:57 AM PDT by marron
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To: tom h
1) There is no long form birth certificate issued by the state of Hawaii. State officials claim to have in their possession a "long form" BC but they are cute in not mentioning it to be a Hawaiian long form.

That's just silly. What makes you think Hawaii keeps foreign birth certificates?

2) The BC has reference to Obama's religion as Muslim.

Hawaii long-form BC's don't mention religion.

There's a third possibility, which is the simplest of all: he hasn't released his long form because it isn't necessary to prove his eligibility, and those who aren't satisfied with the evidence already in the public domain proving his eligibility won't be satisfied by a long form or anything else.

Ever heard of Occum's razor?

Curiously, however, the article did NOT mention BHO, which is surprising since BHO had worked with that very law firm for years, and was already a United States Senator for the state of Illinois.

Why do you find that curious? Given there is no evidence he was born anywhere other than Hawaii, and plenty of evidence he was born in Hawaii, why would you expeect the article to mention him?

What does this mean?

Nothing, except that one of bambi's lawyer friends was interested enough in the topic to write a paper on it.

The attorney was inspired to write the law review article at BHO's request,

How do you she wrote it at BHO's request, or that BHO was involved with it in any way? I haven't seen any evidence to suggest he was. If you've seen some, please share it. Just because your friend writes a paper on some topic doesn't mean you were involved with it or even aware of it.

127 posted on 07/14/2010 2:35:27 PM PDT by curiosity
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