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Question about the end of the Uruguay-Ghana game (vanity)
2 July 2010
| verum ago
Posted on 07/02/2010 2:52:26 PM PDT by verum ago
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posted on
07/02/2010 2:52:30 PM PDT
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verum ago
To: verum ago
It's soccer.
Who the F cares?
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posted on
07/02/2010 2:56:54 PM PDT
by
jrg
To: verum ago
uh, let's make that
offside on a when the ball
whoops
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posted on
07/02/2010 2:57:20 PM PDT
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verum ago
(The US Armed Forces: if you mess with the best, you die like the rest!)
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To: Skip Away
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posted on
07/02/2010 3:07:28 PM PDT
by
verum ago
(The US Armed Forces: if you mess with the best, you die like the rest!)
To: verum ago
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posted on
07/02/2010 3:11:32 PM PDT
by
jrg
To: jrg
I'm not even going to bother clicking the link. And not because I like both soccer and rugby, simply just to return your spite (a rarity for me). To paraphrase your first post,
'It's just jrg being petty and supercilious. Who the F cares?'
Oh, and I'm not going to bother replying to anything else you pollute this simple question and answer thread with.
Have a nice day.
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posted on
07/02/2010 3:33:49 PM PDT
by
verum ago
(The US Armed Forces: if you mess with the best, you die like the rest!)
To: Skip Away
Seen it. 10 was offside on the first header, but offside typically isnt called unless the ball is played to that person. He was out of the play for about 2 seconds there, then the Uruguayan defender came back to bring him on.I've seen it again on my DVR in slow motion (several times). And, I generally agree with your analysis, but I think #10 (Steven Appiah) *could* have been whistled offside when the ball was flicked on because he was near the goalkeeper and could be considered a player that has to be accounted for by the defense. There has certainly been less called before as offside. In this case, though, I do think it was a good no call as he didn't get involved until he was played back onside. Watching that play in slow motion is even more incredible than real time. Simply unbelievable how that ball didn't go in...Appiah had a wide open goal on his kick and happened to find the knee of the Uruguayan defender. What a way to lose after nearly winning in the dying seconds.
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posted on
07/02/2010 3:42:04 PM PDT
by
Azzurri
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To: verum ago
OK.....
I apologize
I'm just being a d**k today. Nothing personal.
Have a nice holiday.
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posted on
07/02/2010 3:50:53 PM PDT
by
jrg
To: jrg
Apology accepted, FRiend.
Everyone has bad days and says stupid things, but do try to stifle that troll impulse...
Have a happy and safe Fourth,
v.a.
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posted on
07/02/2010 10:08:32 PM PDT
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verum ago
(The US Armed Forces: if you mess with the best, you die like the rest!)
To: cartan; dfwgator; Perdogg
To: dfwgator; SilvieWaldorfMD; Berlin_Freeper; Kay; Eurotwit; cartan; darkside321; wolf78; 04-Bravo; ...
The answer is no. Two Uruguayan players were between the goal and the last player from Ghana. FIFA needs to chnage the rules, simply Uruguay cheated.
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posted on
07/03/2010 5:52:37 PM PDT
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Perdogg
(Nancy Pelosi did more damage to America on 03/21 than Al Qaeda did on 09/11)
To: Perdogg
FIFA needs to change the rules FIFA need. FIFA are a plural entity and don't you forget it, lol.
To: Perdogg
FIFA may ban Suarez for the Finals should Uruguay win against Holland. I think it would be just, since essentially he turned out to be a hero for that handball. I think because it happened so close to the end of the game, where Uruguay would not be punished by having to play a man down, that the punishment should be a bit more harsh than normally warranted.
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posted on
07/03/2010 6:04:01 PM PDT
by
dfwgator
To: Perdogg
I don't think you payed attention to what I asked about. I wasn't talking about the moment of the handball. I was talking about when a Ghana player headed the free kick toward the goal,
prior to the handball:
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posted on
07/03/2010 6:20:30 PM PDT
by
verum ago
(Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition!)
To: verum ago
You are talking about the difference between active and passive offside.
As has been mentioned elsewhere on thread, if a player is not in an ‘active’ attitude when the ball is played, meaning the ball is not being played toward him, offside is generally not given.
Hope that helps.
To: verum ago
It is hard to determine offside from that picture since the ball is in the air, having already been played. Appiah could have run onto the ball, quite legally, in those circumstances.
To: verum ago; Perdogg
You have made a very good observation.
From my crude screen grabs it really does not look like an offside on the first head on because the player in the middle was onside and the lower player (#10) was so close it was an OK no call, IMHO.
The photo below is a grab of what seems to me to be the earliest point of the first head on off a Ghana free kick.
The bigger question for me is if the player (#10) hitting the shot that bounced off the defender's leg was offside at the time. I can't tell from the video if the goalie punched the ball to him or if it was headed over by his Ghana teammate.
I found the sideline video that I took the screenshots from here.
Thanks for the interesting post.
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posted on
07/03/2010 10:15:15 PM PDT
by
longjack
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