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To: Godzilla

LOL, this coming from a follower who’s church considers Catholics (and all other non-mormon churches) the “whore of Babylon” - Apostle Orson Pratt, The Seer, p. 255

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That is Orson Pratt which is his natural man views are not Church scripture

Just like some here he is not practicing his faith as well as Bruce McConkie when these statements are made.

All must be very careful not to let our natural man emotions get tangled and think it is the same for the Lord.

We all need to be reminded it it is thy will be done oh Lord not my will.

The Church is less than 200 years old and when one enter in the beganning days they came with baggage that contain history of over thousands of years some correct and other that needed to be corrected.

This only happens after the vail has been removed and our eyes of understanding reveal the Lord’s truth.

This only comes by being humble and a sincere desire to know and understand.


657 posted on 11/28/2009 8:42:38 AM PST by restornu (Teach them correct principles and let them govern themselves! ~ Joseph Smith)
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To: restornu

That is Orson Pratt which is his natural man views are not Church scripture
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OH, Resty...

You just dissed one of the mormon lords prophets

now you’ve gone and done it...

the mormon god will get you for that...

Stand back from your keyboards everyone...

Resty is about to get ZAPPED...

(or the mormon god’s aquivilance..)


666 posted on 11/28/2009 9:09:56 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: restornu

The Church is less than 200 years old
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Ah ha...

Resty denies the “restoration” of the original 2,000 year old Church of Christ......

Joey Smith’s “church” is less than 200 years old”

I will build my church; and the gates of Hell shall not prevail against it. Matthew 16:18

Jesus built it to stay forever...


667 posted on 11/28/2009 9:15:57 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: restornu

We all need to be reminded it it is thy will be done oh Lord not my will.
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I must remember...

Its not Resty’s will...

Will there be a Pop Quiz ???


668 posted on 11/28/2009 9:17:20 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: restornu

when one enter in the beganning days they came with baggage
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But only 17 pounds of it...

Those carts were flimsy...


669 posted on 11/28/2009 9:18:22 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: restornu

they came with baggage that contain history of over thousands of years
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I thought Joey dug it up from a hill in his back yard ???


670 posted on 11/28/2009 9:20:08 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: restornu

history of over thousands of years some correct and other that needed to be corrected.
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Yes, the book of mormon has been “corrested” about 4,000 times...

Those seer stones needed some glass cleaner ...


671 posted on 11/28/2009 9:21:37 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: restornu

This only happens after the vail has been removed _______________________________________________________

How do you remove a hole in the ground ???

Must be another of those mormon god fantasy thingies...


672 posted on 11/28/2009 9:23:35 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: restornu

our eyes of understanding reveal the Lord’s truth.
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Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

I think I’ll stick to reading the Bible for understanding...

I never was good at reading other people’s eyes...

Sometimes they have logs and such like, you know...


676 posted on 11/28/2009 9:26:25 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: restornu

This only comes by being humble and a sincere desire to know and understand.
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Resty you must have read that somewhere...

it hardly comes from personal experience on your part...


679 posted on 11/28/2009 9:28:47 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: restornu

This only comes by being humble and a sincere desire to know and understand.
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Actually Christians are told to be BOLD...

To come BOLDLY into the throne of God ...

Let us therefore come boldly to the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need. Hebrews 4:16


681 posted on 11/28/2009 9:32:10 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: restornu
That is Orson Pratt which is his natural man views are not Church scripture

How can you say that resty? He was one of the 12 original apostles and according to mormonism - was a prophet too. If he was speaking in the natural man, why didn't the president rebuke him. Why your own scriptures agree with Pratt.

"two churches only; the one is the church of the Lamb of God, and the other is the church of the devil". (1 Nephi 14:10).

He is restating the exact SAME THING you bom is speaking. Something I thought your apostle did.

Same thing for McConkie. But then thank you for telling me that smith was translating in the natural man when he wrote the bom..

684 posted on 11/28/2009 9:37:15 AM PST by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: restornu

This only comes by being humble and a sincere desire to know and understand.
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I can have “a sincere desire to know and understand.” a foreign language like French, but unless I read a book on French, I wont learn a thing...

Reading a book in Russian wont help me...

The same with God...

I need to go to God if i want to learn about God...

Reading the Bible helps to...

I could read the book of mormon, or Playboy, or some other unrighteous and/or fictious literature, but I wont learn about God...

Joey Smith didnt know God and nor does Hugh Hefner ...

Anything written by them will not help me find or learn about God...

Both guys will draw me away from God...

Only the Word of God, the Bible will draw me to Him..

Playboy and the book of mormons would kill my hopes and future, and corrupt me...

Only the Bible has life giving words to help me...


685 posted on 11/28/2009 9:41:03 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: restornu; Tennessee Nana
The Church is less than 200 years old and when one enter in the beganning days they came with baggage that contain history of over thousands of years some correct and other that needed to be corrected.

Please answer this then.

If the Mormon church is the only true church and that anyone outside of it is going to hell, why didn't God either...

1) Give the Mormon gospel at the very start instead of the New Testament? and

2) Why did God wait almost 2,000 years to correct the error being taught about Himself and His Son.?

What kind of God would let people to go to hell for almost 2,000 years before correcting such a glaring error as that?

736 posted on 11/28/2009 11:07:07 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: restornu; Godzilla

Oh so now it is the whole “natural man” agrument. Never mind most LDS still believe it.

And if what was once considered scripture (even before the D&C was “scripture”) is now of the “natural man”, then how do you know when the prophet speaks he isn’t speaking as a “natural man”? How can you trust that ANYTHING he says is of God.

And Bruce R. McConkie wasn’t practicing his faith?!?! LOL. Then why does the LDS church owned publishing company STILL publish Mormon Doctrine with entries that state the Catholic Church is the Whore of Babylon?

Hmmmm?

C’mmon Resty, all us Ex-mo’s know there is what the church tells “gentiles” they teach and what the rank and file REALLY believe. Don’t wanna make the church look bad, do we? Even if you have to “lie for the Lord” (and THAT is in LDS scripture -Book of Abraham).


769 posted on 11/28/2009 12:56:28 PM PST by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost, but now am found; was blind but now I see")
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To: restornu; Godzilla

This only happens after the vail has been removed and our eyes of understanding reveal the Lord’s truth.

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So, exactly HOW does one get called of God to be an LDS APOSTLE by revelation (both Orson Pratt and McConkie) and yet STILL not understand “the Lord’s truth”.

Are you saying you have a better understanding of the LDS gospel than your own “apostles”.

Careful there, Resty, sounds like you are speaking out against the “Lord’s annointed” and that can get your Temple Recommend taken away.


775 posted on 11/28/2009 1:15:00 PM PST by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost, but now am found; was blind but now I see")
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To: restornu; Godzilla; metmom

The Church is less than 200 years old

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How can it be both, less than 200 yrs old AND a ‘restoration’ of the church founded by Jesus Christ, which was also the “church” of the OT?

That makes NO sense retsy.


777 posted on 11/28/2009 1:27:29 PM PST by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost, but now am found; was blind but now I see")
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To: restornu; Godzilla; colorcountry; Elsie; Tennessee Nana; Colofornian; SENTINEL; metmom

That is Orson Pratt which is his natural man views are not Church scripture

Just like some here he is not practicing his faith as well as Bruce McConkie when these statements are made.

All must be very careful not to let our natural man emotions get tangled and think it is the same for the Lord.

We all need to be reminded it it is thy will be done oh Lord not my will.

The Church is less than 200 years old and when one enter in the beganning days they came with baggage that contain history of over thousands of years some correct and other that needed to be corrected.

This only happens after the vail has been removed and our eyes of understanding reveal the Lord’s truth.

This only comes by being humble and a sincere desire to know and understand.

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Wow. In a SINGLE post, you managed to malign Orson Pratt and McConkie (the “Lord’s annointed”) in the following ways

Their views were not church doctrine...

They were not praciting their faith....

They were responding to emotion rather than the Lord...

They had baggage and needed correction...

They did not understand the “Lord’s truth”....

And they were not humble and did not have a “sincere desire to know”...

Sounds like a fast track to apostasy, dear.


779 posted on 11/28/2009 1:35:23 PM PST by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost, but now am found; was blind but now I see")
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