Posted on 01/26/2009 6:11:42 AM PST by End Times Sentinel
Okay folks, sorry for the vanity, but I need some advice here.
My children (daughter 9 son 7) go to a Parochial School, and this morning my daughter mentioned that they pray every morning for Obama. I asked her if they used to pray for W and she said, no, never.
Then I said, well, maybe its because hes just starting, to which she responded that theyve been praying for The One since November.
Now, of course, instinctively, I have a problem with this, because its naked partisanship, but whats the remedy? Asking that he not be prayed for anymore doesnt seem very Christian. Should I ask that Republicans be prayed for too? Maybe that makes me the partisan? Should I ask that something be tacked on about and that President Obama sees the wrongs of his ways and stops allowing people to kill babies.? This is a grade school, so Im not sure thats appropriate.
As it stands, Im a little ticked off here and want to get some rational thoughts and suggestions, so anything is much appreciated!
I tend to disfavor political partisanship in schools, particularly during the younger grades.
I’d start by going to the school for fact-collection. Listen to the prayer and see what is being prayed for.
Pray for the Nation? Definitely, always a good thing.
Pray for the Queen? Fair play if you live in the Commonwealth: the Queen is non-partisan.
Pray for the President? A little more dodgy because the President is partisan. But it barely squeaks by because you are praying for the office, not the man.
Pray for Obama? or Bush? Either it is both, or it is neither. I vote for neither.
Once you know what is being said, decide whether you need to meet with the teacher and/or the principal and/or the PTA secretary. Set it all out, and take notes. You will have a better idea how to proceed once you have had that meeting. But by no means go into that meeting unprepared: do the above homework first!
I’d be in the superior’s office in a heart-beat.
I know a retired lady from Germany who was in primary school when Hitler came to power. She can still remember the daily prayer the schools had everyone recite “for our dear Leader”. After all, Germany had just come through the hyperinflation and distress of the Weimar Republic, and at that time no one knew what was to come, but that they had some One they could trust to get things back on track economically.
If it would not be an imposition, could you tell us the denomination of the parochial school?
I have learned in my later years here that the Catholic/Parochial schools are merely private schools with a Crucifix out front. From my experience, I wouldn’t trust them. I am a practicing Catholic whose full 16 years of Cathoic education ended over 35 years ago. I can tell you that “it ain’t what it once to was”.
Sorry, I thought parochial meant Catholic. But then again, I'm a convert so a lot of what I "think" is wrong.
That's what makes this all the stranger! It's not like I'm sending them to some "Black Liberation" school or something. This is Catholic and it SEEMS like abortion would be one of the biggest... heck, THE biggest issue. So how can they overlook that?
I would ask to see the prayer and then decide what to do.
Content and context mean everything.
Does the ACLU allow prayer in schools? Any schools?
Let them prey... er pray.
I would pray with my kids so when they pray in school they can pray according to how I taught them.
Well Public skhools pray to him.
Have them become FReepers and sign up for a daily dose of the Obama prayer threads. end sarcasm.
If they prayed for Bush, I really have no problem depending on what is said. Praying for leaders is biblical.
I would have already lodged a complaint. If that fails I would remove them from the school and they would know the reason why.
Time to find a new school. It doesn’t sound like your kids are likely to get a Catholic education at that one.
Public or private school? What is the content of the prayer? If the school is praying every day that he changes, seems like a good thing.
I thought perhaps I would read a few dawning upon the realization of just how pernicious the invocation of the divine was when done by (and apparently for) secular authority.
Oh well.
If this is true then take you kids out of the school today. Why are you hesitating? You pay them to educated your kids, find another school.
Homeschooling takes a fraction of the time that institutionalized schooling does. My homeschooled children rarely spent more than 2 hours in formal studying.
You are paying for private school now. How much would a babysitter cost as compared to private school tuition? And....Surely, a babysitter could be expected to help out with some of the homeschooling.
99% of what a child learns is at home anyway. You are likely spending time supervising homework, or your children are independently doing homework now. Some call all this “afterschooling”. Really, what is the school actually teaching your childen anyway? I suspect that you and your kids are doing the mass bulk of the work and the institutional school is merely sending home the curriculum for you to follow.
Finally...Contact you local homeschooling group and get in contact with working parents who are homeschooling. You might be amazed that homeschooling with working parents is entirely possible. I personally know a few families ( and single working moms) who have done an excellent job of it.
By the way, my daughter teaches math at a Catholic school. It is a Democratic Party indoctrination camp. That Obama and the Democrats support abortion and even infanticide means nothing to those running this supposed Catholic-in-name-only “school”.
Also, complain to the Catholic authorities who are supposedly supervising this “Catholic” school.
Contact the other parents and let them know what’s going on with this adulation of a infanticide promoting president.
Well, I understand your point.
Off the top of my head, my choices are another Catholic school, that I suspect would be similar, a Jewish school that probably prays TO Obama, or a Friends school that would try to teach them to hate America (Friends are despicable low lifes, in general).
This is more a source of annoyance, because no amount of surrounding my kids with children praying for/to Obama is going to have an affect on them supporting this fraud. We talk about these issues at the dinner table nightly and on the way to and from school, and that has far more impact than that school ever will in setting their moral compass.
The school (and probably any school) has made comments about guns, war, and smoking that I've told them are dead wrong. That's a fact of life. Unless you're going to homeschool, which I'd rather do, but is unpractical and possibly an overall detrimental decision in our circumstance, someone's going to say something I don't like.
I just find this to be extremely annoying, and openly disparate in a way that contradicts The Vatican's teachings.
Owl_Eagle
When the stock market crashed,
Franklin Roosevelt got on the television
and didnt just talk about
the princes of greed, he said,
Look, heres what happened."
-Slow Joe Biden
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