Posted on 07/20/2008 9:25:44 PM PDT by Marie2
At 15, Lawrence King was small—5 feet 1 inch—but very hard to miss. In January, he started to show up for class at Oxnard, Calif.'s E. O. Green Junior High School decked out in women's accessories. On some days, he would slick up his curly hair in a Prince-like bouffant. Sometimes he'd paint his fingernails hot pink and dab glitter or white foundation on his cheeks. "He wore makeup better than I did," says Marissa Moreno, 13, one of his classmates. He bought a pair of stilettos at Target, and he couldn't have been prouder if he had on a varsity football jersey. He thought nothing of chasing the boys around the school in them, teetering as he ran.
But on the morning of Feb. 12, Larry left his glitter and his heels at home. He came to school dressed like any other boy: tennis shoes, baggy pants, a loose sweater over a collared shirt. He seemed unhappy about something. He hadn't slept much the night before, and he told one school employee that he threw up his breakfast that morning, which he sometimes did because he obsessed over his weight. But this was different. One student noticed that as Larry walked across the quad, he kept looking back nervously over his shoulder before he slipped into his first-period English class. The teacher, Dawn Boldrin, told the students to collect their belongings, and then marched them to a nearby computer lab, so they could type out their papers on World War II. Larry found a seat in the middle of the room. Behind him, Brandon McInerney pulled up a chair.
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How many kids at that school have been shot for wearing the rival gang colors?
but knowing them - they’ll be fine.
Not likely kid. Every gay man I've ever met had serious problems by the time they were 30.
It sure seems like some were supporting the MURDERER. When someone in an earlier post said that Larry deserves it -- that is when I got upset. NOONE deserves to die.
2. I'm fairly libertarian in my politics, but some things aren't normal.
I'm not sure if homosexuality is 'normal' or not. Just look at ancient Greece. It was 'normal' (look at the art works on the pottery), but was it? I'm not sure. However, I'm not sure if homosexuality is a gene or not.
Guys acting effemite and wearing dresses is not normal.
Agree with you on that. Thou my Dad said that a kid he went to school with makes 125K a year being Marilyn Monroe. My friends said that being a girl is not what they want.
Now that does not mean that Larry deserved to be murdered.
Agreed. now if Larry was being a slut towards Brandon, maybe Brandon was unsure of his sexuality. Brandon, it seemed didn't have the best homelife (neither did Larry, thou how much of it was caused by his birth mom's drug use?) so maybe he could ask his dad when his dad was around.
What it does mean is that Larry needed a dose of reality from mom, dad, and the school so that he had better situational awareness.
Again, how much of Larry's problem was caused by hisbio-mom's drug use. It seemed like his adoptive parents were trying to help him. (Of couse, it seemed that his dad didn't like gays. I did read the article and it seems his dad was not supportive.) I don't know about CasaPacific but maybe it was a place to help him be 'normal' (Whatever normal is!)
If I walked around the projects in flashy expensive clothes, I wouldn't deserve to get murdered, but I would be putting myself in a dangerous situation that is avoidable.
I agree, however, I doubt that my friends would ever be in flashy expensive clothes. Give us a pair of Wrangler jeans and a T-shirt and that would be our 'dress up for school' uniform. :-)
Quit the all caps stuff and calm down.
Sorry! I am now calm, but I believe that it seemed to me some were happy about Larry. I just got mad because to me it is no big deal about it. I guess that us teens are used to it. I can't explain it but think about what Hollyweird is trying to do to TV. (a gay character on mainstream tv shows).
If they were adults, I'd agree with you. They aren't, so I disagree.
Did you know that in many states a 12 year old child is presumed to not be able to form criminal intent. In the state of Washington, if an eight year old child shot and killed someone, they could not be convicted of a murder even if the child intented to cause that death?
Same sex Attration disorder? Come on, man it is homosexuality. Homosexuality been around for a long time, it isn't a new 'disorder'. Not sure of when you were in high school, but the GOVERNMENTAL SCHOOLS are not what it was in the late 70s/early 80s when my parents were in school.
A couple of weeks ago, an idiot highschooler got decapitated on a rollercoster. He was trying to get back a hat and a cell phone he lost on the ride, and no doubt it seemed reasonable to him to climb over two fences and walk past a "no admittance" sign todo so. There were warnings in place that his behavior would put him in danger, which he ignored, and tragiclly, he paid a price.
I heard about that kid. To me, if I lost my hat and my cell phone - I would have gone to the ride operator and tell them that it was there. I wouldn't got and do what Mr. Rollercoaster did.
God disapproved of the choices they were making,
Now, I got to disagree with that. my church says GOD loves everyone - so why would GOD disapprove on it. I guess the only way to know is when we die and ask GOD then. I believe GOD loves all (except MUSLIM TERRORISTS!).
I watched these friends go from being sons, brothers, students, poets, writers, and athletes who chose homosexual behavior into individuals whose sexuality defined every facet of their lives. The lifestyle grew and grew until it encompassed everything they were, coloring every part of their lives...like any addiction does.
Now, I hope my gay friends won't do that. Sometimes when we see GAY PRIDE PARADES being shown on TV - with these morons (guys in THONGS, Guys dressed up as nuns and women who looked like they could play LINEBACKER for the NFL Pats) - and my friends are turned off by them. They aren't what I would call them the SPOKESPEOPLE of the gay movement - just like I wouldn't call a leader of the KKK the spokesman of white people.
I do understand what you are saying. I just wish that both Larry and Brandon could have discuss it. Ithink Larry getting killed was TRAGIC but Brandon - if he was confused by his sexuality (and teens are!) needed to talk to someone about his feelings.
I believe that if parents don't discuss it - then schools should. I believe schools should have Gay straight clubs, because maybe if EO Green had it, both lives wouldn't be ruined! I still believe that parents should talk to their kids and the kidshould be able to discuss it with their parents. And if a kid is gay - they shouldn't be kicked out of the house. I read that a few kids were in a sex ring - and they were kicked out of their homes for being gay. I'm glad my friends' parents didn't kick them out.
Not if they have the support of their families (they do) and their friends (again they do). I know one wants to be a naval architect and the other wants to be an NHL hockey Player. They will be surrounded by their friends and family.
See last post!!
As I said, the true test is time...............
RightWingTeen, in my introductory paragraph, I made my sympathy for the murder victim quite clear. It is you who are jumping to stereotypical conclusions. I am terrible sorry this kid was so horribly failed by the many who had chances to do right by him.
To expect fellow classmates to calmly and rationally accept his bizarre and harassing behavior is not reasonable. Nobody should have shot him. But teenagers are not rational a lot of the time. We all know it, so why do we put them in situations of extreme stress like this?
Were I subject to that sort of harassment at work, I have the option of quitting or getting legal defense. I know my rights.
A teenager is in a “compulsory” education situation. He can’t just leave. The powers that be, who should have protected him from the extreme harassment he was getting, were rather cheering on the harasser.
Yes, the murderer should not have killed him. But to expect that there will be no violence in these situations is the height of stupidity, and devastating to EVERYONE involved.
“Brandon - if he was confused by his sexuality (and teens are!) needed to talk to someone about his feelings.”
It seems he had plenty of people in the administration that were delighted with his behavior.
Now, I got to disagree with that. my church says GOD loves everyone - so why would GOD disapprove on it. I guess the only way to know is when we die and ask GOD then. I believe GOD loves all (except MUSLIM TERRORISTS!).
Your church is teaching correctly in that God DOES love everyone. BUT, God specifically says in the Bible that he cannot and will not abide sin. He also says that homosexuality is a sin.
You should understand that God, in his infinite wisdom, has allowed mankind to separate themselves from him. Man's sin is the instrument of that separation. If homosexuals are allowed to bypass the biblical prohibition on their sin (and the personal debt to be paid in the afterlife), then lying, adultery, and even murder are just as acceptable in God's eyes.
From your previous posts, I assume you agree that murder is absolutely wrong. From a biblical perspective, so is homosexuality.
Someone needs a timeout.
Do you get much--err, umm, "blowback"-- from your straight acquaintances about your being friends with two gays?
Cheers!
As long as it's a kick and not anything else.
I won't leave!!
You sound Fabulous.
(and only slightly less Onanistically Narcissistic than Barack Obama, but that's another story.)
Let me buy you a Lime Gin Fizzy.
Cheers!
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Given the MSM's deliberate mispronunciation of "harrassment" as "harris-ment", I think the alternative I posted is appropriate.
Cheers!
The evidence is some of the boys, including Brandon McTierney, were constantly heckling Larry King, because of his flamboyant effeminancy. King retaliated by flirting with them, which was, in itself, a form of sexual harassment. So, we had both sides engaging in sexual harassment of the other. In this case, it resulted in murder.
Now, let me tell you a story, originally told by a co-worker (now deceased from cancer). He worked at a local electronics company. There was a man that worked there, who was what would be rabidly homophobic (constantly cursing gays). Other workers considered him to be rather obnoxious in his behavior.
The homophobic man was also smitten with one woman. Someone (not identified) put a note on his desk, telling him the woman wanted him to call her. The catch was the number given was for the gay and lesbian hot line. The man was almost incandescent in his anger about the prank.
Though it is possible to see humor in the prank, such pranks are not advisable for two reasons:
1. That kind of prank is sexual harassment (it could lead to loss of employment).
2. The prank could result in someone being killed.
Bull, if the kid would have belted the homosexual the homosexual world would have cried it was a hate crime against the homosexual.
Maybe. But this kid is now facing much more serious charges. He made the absolutely worst decision he could have made in this situation, and his life is now essentially over.
The school should have focused more on discipline, the victim shouldn't have been such an annoying prick. But, at the end of the day, all of that is secondary and the blame here falls fully on the shooter.
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