First Humans To Settle Americas Came From Europe, Not From Asia Over Bering Strait -

ScienceDaily ^ | July 17, 2008

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[ModelBreaker]

So, Native Americans may be descended from eeeeeeevil Europeans?

Actually, it is almost certain that most American Indians today are descended from Asians--genetics bear that out. So what it really means is that the ancestors of current American Indians wiped out the earlier inhabitants of North America, who were European.

How's that for popcorn? Reparations anyone?

[shibumi]

I recall dating a young lady in college who was full-blooded Sioux Indian. She repeatedly told me that the Sioux were not related to other Indian tribes, and were in her words “genetically Caucasian.”

Being more concerned with the fact that she was quite good-looking and a lot of fun to be with, I paid very little mind to the veracity of her genetic claims - they made no difference to me.

I wonder now if her story had some truth to it.

[Beowulf9]

“So, Native Americans may be descended from eeeeeeevil Europeans?”

Not so hard to believe. Remember how F-Troop’s Indians looked Italian?.......

[Army Air Corps]

Considering that a fair amount of my ancestry is American Indian, this has possibilites. The rest of my lineage is German, English, and Scot. Maybe a new name is in order. Hans Littlefeather. Angus Running Deer. Hmmmmmm....

[shibumi]

Or.....

Buffalo Haggis Spotted Dick Schnitzengruben

[Verginius Rufus]

Next year is the 2000th anniversary of when Herman annihilated 3 Roman legions and freed the land between the Rhine and the Elbe from Roman rule.

So...does your German half owe your Italian half reparations for the massacre of Roman troops, or does your Italian half owe reparations to your German half for trying to subjugate and exploit your German ancestors?

[SunkenCiv]

I don’t know. Could have been a Post-Columbian result.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/A850006

http://www.dnatribes.com/?gclid=CKD4jfCkxpQCFQKaFQodkAnakg

[Kid Shelleen]

Fascinating read. Believe it or not PBS had a show suggesting Salutrians were the first to arrive in America by navigating the ice flows in the Atlantic..

[.44 Special]

The Lakota Originally moved out onto the plains from the eastern areas of Minnesota and possibly more eastern than than that if traced to their true origins. This might also shed some light on the physical differences between the eastern and western tribes and could also account for the language separations.

A through genetic study of of tribes across the nation could lead to a genome mapping and possible migration trail of the tribes. It would interesting to see where the outfall of asian and european influences occur.

[Vigilanteman]

Kennewick Man is, indeed, an interesting chapter in the history of suppression of genuine research in favor of political correctness.

An old professor of Indian migration that I once knew was scorned by most of his professional colleagues for stating that at least some Native American tribes moved here from somewhere other than the popular Bering Straight land-bridge source.

To agree with the orthodox view is to scorn the ancient people as inferior and incapable of moving over large bodies of water. While comforting to the superiority complex of modern man, it does not explain how evidence of the existence of ancient man in islands which could not have been reached by land bridges also weakens the orthodox theory that 100% of ancient man in places connected by land bridges could only have migrated in such manner.

[rmlew]

Yep. The later Asian/Mongoloid migrations perpetrated genocide on the earlier European settlers.

1. European? Many peoples we consider "European" were not in Europe 15,000 years ago.
2. About 12,000 years ago there seems to have been a comet or meteor explosion over North america. The resulting fires and then cold snap is now blamed. Not that migrants from Asia would not have taken advantage of the dislocation of the true first peoples resulting in conflict.

[seowulf]

Many peoples we consider "European" were not in Europe 15,000 years ago.

Some, perhaps.

However, one of the major haplotypes R1a1-1 dates back to the late upper Paleolithic, maybe 17 or 18K years ago. Of course R1a1-1 mutations occurred in Europe at varying times afterward.

Most of the ancestors of Europeans were living on the edge of the ice and south (in Europe) at the last glacial maximum.

I was being a bit facetious regarding genocide of "Europeans" though. The population of North America would probably have been much to sparse to make killing your neighbor hundreds of miles away worthwhile.

Whether it was a comet, disease, or whatever, the fact that they were here is not something the so-called native peoples are willing to contemplate, whether for spiritual or, more likely, economic reasons. Some people just like being victims because it is so profitable.

[SunkenCiv]

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Note: this topic is from 07/16/2008. Thanks Free ThinkerNY.

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[Larry Lucido]

So the Sand people were here first? They’ll be back, and in greater numbers.

[Lurkina.n.Learnin]

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