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The Death of Three Nations
The National Ledger ^ | Jun 15, 2006 | Alan Burkhart

Posted on 06/18/2006 7:49:43 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer

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To: Jason_b
It's called "monetizing the national debt". Alexander Hamilton created the process although a term for it was not devised until just after WWII.

It's as American as mother and apple pie.

61 posted on 06/18/2006 7:40:32 PM PDT by muawiyah (-)
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To: muawiyah

"We all experience denial, the trick is to quickly get over it." - John Farnam


62 posted on 06/18/2006 8:47:13 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Illegal immigration Control and Border Security -The jobs George W. Bush doesn't want to do.)
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To: muawiyah
Even the aristocratic Alexander Hamilton thought the debt should be retired periodically. Periods of a small national debt he thought would be a blessing. His idea of a national debt, still, existed within a monetary framework that took for granted that the basis of real money is gold and silver coin. He would have been baffled by the Federal Reserve System model and hardly created it under a different name at an earlier time, but nice try. Thomas Jefferson; however, is spinning in his grave over the existence of the Federal Reserve and our burden of the very unpayable perpetual debt he warned us about.
63 posted on 06/19/2006 5:19:28 AM PDT by Jason_b
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To: Willie Green; Wolfie; ex-snook; Jhoffa_; FITZ; arete; FreedomPoster; Red Jones; Pyro7480; ...
Imagine the arrogance necessary for one to believe he’s justified in wrecking three vibrant cultures – the US, Canada and Mexico – just to make his financial bottom line more attractive.
64 posted on 06/19/2006 5:22:30 AM PDT by A. Pole (1Tm:6:10: "the love of money is the root of all evil")
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To: pondering
basic idea in globalization is "competitive advantage." That means people do what they're best at, and get paid accordingly

So why the Founding Fathers established tariffs ie the sales tax on the goods made abroad?

65 posted on 06/19/2006 5:42:53 AM PDT by A. Pole (1Tm:6:10: "the love of money is the root of all evil")
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To: Savage Beast
So Burkhart has managed to conclude that it was Good Intentions that paved the way to World War II and the Nazi holocaust???

Only people with REALLY Good Intentions are capable to kill millions. People with bad intentions at most become the serial killers.

"The road to hell is paved with good intentions."

66 posted on 06/19/2006 5:47:09 AM PDT by A. Pole (1Tm:6:10: "the love of money is the root of all evil")
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To: hedgetrimmer

There there is only one party, in the United States today: the liberal party. This party has two wings: the Big Government Liberals (the Democrat Party) and the Big Business Liberals (the GOP). One seeks to maximize the power of government bureaucrats (the BGLs) and the other seeks to maximize the power of oligarchical corporations (the BBLs). Each works towards its goal by transferring power and money from families (the taxpayers) to their chosen power groups (Big Government or Big Business). Each shares the same ultimate end: the creation of OneWorld, the United State, the New World Order, a planet where "there are no nations; there are no peoples. There are no Russians. There are no Arabs. There are no third worlds. There is no West. There is only one holistic system of systems; one vast, interwoven, interacting, multivaried, multinational dominion of dollars... a perfect world in which there's no war or famine, oppression or brutality - one vast and ecumenical holding company, for whom all men will work to serve a common profit, in which all men will hold a share of stock - all necessities provided, all anxieties tranquilized, all boredom amused." [Paddy Chayevsky, NETWORK, 1975).

This has been the liberal dream since the beginning.

Against it stands the Empire -- the forces of Tradition, Faith, and Family -- which was murdered by Liberalism in the Revolution, which began at the end of the Middle Ages and which continues today. It is this Empire that will someday rise again and ultimately confront and destroy the United State / New World Order, restoring the social, economic, and spiritual balance and ushering in a millenium here on Earth.


67 posted on 06/19/2006 5:54:04 AM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan Any questions?)
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To: ladyinred
[1] I do not believe Hitler thought he doing his evil deeds for the good of the people.
[2] He was an insane mass murderer.

These two things can go together.

If you want to understand him read Mein Kampf. If you want to understand his beliefs read The Crisis of German Ideology : Intellectual Origins of the Third Reich (Paperback) by George L. Mosse.

68 posted on 06/19/2006 5:58:32 AM PDT by A. Pole (1Tm:6:10: "the love of money is the root of all evil")
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To: xrp
but wasn't this highway's idea conceived by Bill Clinton?

No. All of this was instigated by large corporations that want to maximize their profits at the expense of American lifestyle. All Presidents and both parties are puppets of that cabal. If you think that the secret power base does not exist, then I would suggest that you are not well read.

The roadmap for this planned erasure of borders was publically available for over twenty years. The plan is right on schedule, and is nearing "end game".

You need to take this "conspiracy crap" seriously, and do some searching and reading. You will find that this is real, and your way of life is coming to a close. Your elected leaders, of both parties, are selling you and your family down the river.

69 posted on 06/19/2006 6:40:35 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: mmercier
Poor people and wage slaves do not purchase much more than food, clothing and alcohol

In China, those people produce the stuff you like to buy from WalMart. Once the wages of Americans are depressed to that level, we will see some manufacturing in this country. It will, of course, be done at the Chinese wage levels. You and your children will staff the factories.

This mess is not a conspiracy. Read the linked articles. Search the web. I read this plan over twenty years ago, and scoffed. Everything in that document I read back then has become reality. Everything. The intent is to make a third world, not just third world nations. The reasons have been published along with the plans. The very rich will live very well while the rest of us live in the gutter. Can't happen, you say? Think of the monarchs of Europe. They had gold and silver dinnerware, crystal chandeliers, jewel encrusted clothes, and black pepper from China while everybody else ate rats.

American leaders of both parties are "in" on this deal. It turns out that Bill Clinton was actually less damaging to the average person than is George Bush.

70 posted on 06/19/2006 6:50:41 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: pondering
That means people do what they're best at, and get paid accordingly.

You have bought into globalism without much thought. The wages will be globalized. Didn't you watch the computer programming jobs migrate to India? They'll come back just as soon as the already skilled and experienced software engineers in this country are satisfied with making $6,000 per year.

The scenareo will be repeated for all walks of life. That is where this is headed. Can you really see it any other way?

71 posted on 06/19/2006 6:57:53 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: hedgetrimmer
Mexico will scream bloody murder, but who cares? I for one am sick of seeing our nation being used as Mexico’s welfare cash cow.

Mexico may scream bloody murder, but support for the end to NAFTA would come from the hundreds of thousands of Mexicans who have been impoverished by NAFTA and must now head north to survive.

The welfare is really to Mexico's wealthy who benefit from NAFTA and pay very low income taxes. The people sending money back to their families actually work very hard to keep their families from starving, and unintentionally, the wealthy in a position to keep lining their pockets.

72 posted on 06/19/2006 7:43:15 AM PDT by lucysmom
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To: xrp
x/??sn't this highway's idea conceived by Bill Clinton?

The idea has been around since Clinton's time in office, but I don't think it was supported by him. Clinton delayed putting Mexican truckers on American highways beyond the 25 mile limit.

73 posted on 06/19/2006 7:49:00 AM PDT by lucysmom
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To: mmercier
This conspiracy theory has been kicking around for a century

This is not a conspiracy. It is out there in the open.

74 posted on 06/19/2006 7:59:49 AM PDT by A. Pole (1Tm:6:10: "the love of money is the root of all evil")
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To: Panzerfaust
I still remember some of the older union guys telling me to "pace myself" (in other words, slow down) because I was making them look bad by moving freight at a pace they would not match.

Maybe the suggestion to "pace yourself" came from first hand knowlege of the aches and pains down the road.

My grandfather, the contractor paying the wages, told my brother the same thing. He was afraid my brother would injure himself.

75 posted on 06/19/2006 8:04:02 AM PDT by lucysmom
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To: GingisK
The wages will be globalized. Didn't you watch the computer programming jobs migrate to India? They'll come back just as soon as the already skilled and experienced software engineers in this country are satisfied with making $6,000 per year.

There is one condition for this to happen. The cost of living in USA has to come to $6,000 per year. It will require either significant degree of socialism or the collapse of prices.

76 posted on 06/19/2006 8:04:05 AM PDT by A. Pole (1Tm:6:10: "the love of money is the root of all evil")
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To: hedgetrimmer
...uphold the core function of the American government, protection of individual rights and defense of the Constitution...

This is probably a dumb question, but its something I've wondered about. The Constitution gives the federal government the right to levy tariffs to raise money; because that is a Constitutional right, does the government have the power to negotiate away that right in trade agreements without a Constitutional amendment?

77 posted on 06/19/2006 8:12:49 AM PDT by lucysmom
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To: lucysmom; hedgetrimmer
The Constitution gives the federal government the right to levy tariffs to raise money; because that is a Constitutional right, does the government have the power to negotiate away that right in trade agreements without a Constitutional amendment?

As I was informed on another thread, only the US Senate is required to ratify such treaties, which is interesting since when big bisiness wanted to ram through their globalist agenda, that's exactly who they bought off.

78 posted on 06/19/2006 8:16:54 AM PDT by Rockitz (This isn't rocket science- Follow the money and you'll find the truth.)
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To: lucysmom
The Constitution gives the federal government the right to levy tariffs to raise money; because that is a Constitutional right, does the government have the power to negotiate away that right in trade agreements without a Constitutional amendment?

In a word, no.
79 posted on 06/19/2006 8:18:27 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer ("I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: GingisK; B-Chan
Both of you are correct. Notice this at the end of the paragraph.

" [Paddy Chayevsky, NETWORK, 1975)."

I take this very seriously:

The plan is right on schedule, and is nearing "end game".

IMO, Agenda 21 and all that crap was aimed at the 21st century. Here we are seeing more and more of their destruction.

80 posted on 06/19/2006 9:05:00 AM PDT by texastoo ("trash the treaties")
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