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To: spankalib
Try Ecclesiastes 9:5....and 9:10.

I will use the whole council of God's word including "... where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever." Rev 20:10 and the words of Christ - "to go to hell, into the fire that shall never be quenched—— 44 "where ‘Their worm does not die, And the fire is not quenched.’ Mk 9:43

In addition the earliest teachings of the apostolic church including Polycarp the disciple of St. John. I think your exegesis is way too weak to simply say "lie of the Devil".

Orthodoxy reigns in matter of dispute unless there is clear and compelling evidence to the contrary.

8 posted on 05/17/2006 4:19:43 PM PDT by DaveyB (Ignorance is part of the human condition - atheism makes it permanent!)
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To: DaveyB
I will use the whole council of God's word

We'll see. You'd be the .000009% who doesn't grind the ole axe. :)

including "... where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever." Rev 20:10 and the words of Christ - "to go to hell, into the fire that shall never be quenched—— 44 "where ‘Their worm does not die, And the fire is not quenched.’ Mk 9:43

1. Compare the quality of the use of eternal, forever, etc. with Jude 7. Ask; Can I go to some location - in Iraq? - and see the smoke?

What is forever is the result (of the judgement) not the suffering.

and 2. If you do indeed rely upon the "whole council (sic) of God's word", then I suppose it would be reasonable to expect you to search it for references to death being like sleep. (I think there are over 150 such references) and think about how "death as a state of dreamless sleep" (my words for it) beautifully ties in with what happens when Jesus comes back in 1Thessalonians 14 - the dead in Christ shall rise -and see the golden thread of consistent truth.

and 3. God love you, lets not pound each other over the head with God's word, which we should both be rightly divining, and sounding like a couple of arguing pharisees. We can take this over to the religion threads, and I will participate in discussion as time permits, FRiend.

10 posted on 05/17/2006 5:01:20 PM PDT by spankalib
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