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To: dangus
About 3% of Americans are gay, the core audience for "Brokeback Mountain.

That would leave BM at about $30 million.

If it does significantly more than $30 million, are you going to have to revise the numbers of gay, and gay-friendly Americans?

Both groups probably have allies numbering about 2.5:1 (meaning 75% of Americans approve of Christianity as an organized religion, and maybe about 7-10% of Americans are "gay-friendly".)

A little problem with your assumptions here, even if I do give you your numbers (which I strongly doubt). The number of people who are tolerant of hard-line Christianity has no bearing on how many people went to see "Passion". The word on "Passion" was out, too, and if you really wanted to help Mel Gibson make a statement, you bought a ticket to that movie, if you really didn't want to see a man being tortured to death, you stayed away.

Word is out on BBM, too, the gay sex scenes are not considered graphic, there is a considerable amount of female nudity instead, and there are positive reviews of the acting, the story, and the cinematography. Going to see it will not mark a man as gay, at least in most suburban American cities.

Box office is already starting to grow on this picture, frankly, as it seems to be a political statement from the left in answer to the "Passion" numbers, I fully expect it to do as well as Narnia, and possibly as well as "Passion". Anyone who is cheered by last week's numbers is going to be painfully disappointed within a month.

164 posted on 01/02/2006 12:30:59 AM PST by hunter112 (Total victory at home and in the Middle East!)
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To: hunter112
Word is out on BBM, too, the gay sex scenes are not considered graphic, there is a considerable amount of female nudity instead, and there are positive reviews of the acting, the story, and the cinematography.

This is an excerpt from the pluggedinonline.com review about this movie:
Once, the camera keeps staring as kisses give way to anal sex. (There's no nudity shown, but the sequence is explicit; it includes sexual motions and sounds.)

What is your defintion of graphic?

166 posted on 01/02/2006 6:09:30 AM PST by bulldozer
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To: hunter112

>> If it does significantly more than $30 million, are you going to have to revise the numbers of gay, and gay-friendly Americans? <<

No, the contect of what I wrote was that the movie had not yet reached beyond its core audience. If it does better, it would mean that the movie reviewers were at least partly correct that the movie resonated with non-gays, and I would agree, at least in part, with this statement:

>> Word is out on BBM, too, the gay sex scenes are not considered graphic, there is a considerable amount of female nudity instead, and there are positive reviews of the acting, the story, and the cinematography. Going to see it will not mark a man as gay, at least in most suburban American cities. <<

On the other hand, over the past few days, I have been blitzed in three different metro areas (as I am travelling for the holidays) with advertisements for the movie, pushing how it is a certain Oscar winner. The voice-overs proclaim it a beautiful love story (as it shows men hugging and kissing women), and a glorious triumph of the heart (as it shows men huggung their children).

The movie-makers apparently think they can deceive people into thinking it is a heterosexual, family movie... and the movie grosses over the last few days show strong growth.


167 posted on 01/02/2006 6:39:16 AM PST by dangus
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