It's Happening Again (We've Got Another Schiavo, Starving In GA, No Brain-Damage)

Media Release | 4-6-05 | The Family of Mae Magouirk

[maine-iac7]

Do you know where Pat, Beth's mother, Mae's dtr.,

not daughter - daughter in law....m. to Mae's son, now deceased

[schmelvin]

"I can't buck dance." ROFL!

I'm laughing and crying at the same time, I'm so happy!

Mae is awake and able to speak on her own behalf! That's got to throw a big wrench in any plans Gaddy could have to cause harm.

So, Judge Boyd has recused himself... interesting development. Based on info you aren't able to share with us at this time, you believe this is a good development. Right? I trust your judgment, eeevil. And, I respect your ability to keep things told to you in confidence quiet. That's the way it should be.

I assume that keeping certain things quiet serves Mae's best interests, because the family doesn't need Gaddy becoming privy to their battle plans. After all, look what happened when Gaddy found out the family was on their way to remove Mae from the hospice, she ran straight to the courthouse to thwart them. I'm glad you're doing the right thing and keeping some things hush-hush for now, eeevil.

[Sally]

Looks like the lawyer's statement is back up now. I haven't even finished reading it yet... note that it's Terri Schiavo's lawyer David Gibbs.

Terri Schiavo Attorney Calls on Georgia Court
to Feed Elderly Woman

Here:
http://www.blogsforterri.com/archives/2005/04/terri_schiavo_a_4.php

[samiam1972]

That is absolutely wonderful news! I am so happy for all of them!

[Fred Nerks]

Hands clapping! Joy! Miss Mae has her life back! What a wonderful morning this is, great news on an Australian morning.

[Sally]

I've read the whole thing now.

Finally! One brief piece that untangles this whole mess and gets to the heart of the life & death issues in the case of Mae Magouirk. I think even someone who hasn't closely followed the case like we have would "get it" from reading Gibbs' statement.

It should worry every American that Mae's Living Will has been completely ignored. How many times have we heard/read recently, in relation to Terri Schiavo, that a Living Will is the answer to all our "end-of-life" problems? This is not a "right to die" case, and neither was Terri Schiavo's. It is a FIGHT TO LIVE case... 81-year-old Mae v. Incompetent Judge, Greedy-Lying Granddaughter, and Hospice LaGrange which jumped at the chance to assist in killing a temporarily disabled woman.

[Reaganwuzthebest]

It should worry every American that Mae's Living Will has been completely ignored.

It makes you wonder what the heck is going on in this country. We have an activist judiciary that has completely lost sight of its primary function: to protect the rights of those who can't defend themselves.

[judgemc]

Any idea when the next court date will be?

[Fred Nerks]

I've been thinking about the medical profession's role in this issue, I know our laws are different in Oz, but my family doctor is in for a grilling, I can assure you. We owe it to ourselves and our nearest and dearest to become completely informed as to what we can expect - what protection have we from the eutanasia advocates? How can the court hold power of life and death over us? How is it that they can over-rule or refuse to accept medical opinion?
That a guardian who stands to inherit can literally sentence one to death in a hospice is a terrifying prospect.

[Cboldt]

Any idea when the next court date will be?

Never, as long as Gaddy cooperates and gets court orders that memorialize the decisions that suit everybody. Remeber, first one into court on this one was Gaddy, with a Motion for Emergency Guardianship.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1383894/posts <--

Kirby [Mae/Ken's attorney] then drafted motions to file with the probate court in LaGrange, asking the court to order Beth Gaddy to allow the visits.

McLeod said neither he nor nephew Ken Mullinax had done anything to cause problems at the hospital or hospice.

"We didn't cause a scene, we didn't cause anything in our sister's room, and we think we ought to be able to see our sister," McLeod said.

A second motion was to demand Gaddy "show cause" as to why she refused to allow her relatives to visit her grandmother and prohibited doctors from discussing the case with them.

Gaddy relaxed her position. She agreed to allow full visitation privileges, but only if Ken Mullinax promised never to talk to the media again or communicate in any way with Internet bloggers.

Mullinax refused and was on Fox News Channel's "Hannity & Colmes" yesterday, where he provided a nationwide audience with details of the case. Hannity quoted from an exclusive story on WND, which was the first national news organization to investigate and report on the Magouirk case.

In another twist, Troup County Probate Judge Donald Boyd, who has had charge of the case since April 1, voluntarily recused himself.

Kirby told WorldNetDaily that Boyd gave no reason for his decision.

"There was no hearing," Kirby said, "But I talked to the granddaughter's attorney [Danny Daniel], and they have agreed to let my people visit without restriction with Mrs. Magouirk while she's in the hospital, and they have agreed to allow my people to have access to information from the doctors regarding medical care and treatment."

Kirby said that at first, they "allowed visitation of 30 minutes a day, and I told him we appreciated the gesture and we would observe our 30 minutes a day, but we still intended to go forward to ask the judge to give us more than that."

After further discussions today, he continued, "they decided not to place any restrictions on visitation."

Kirby added he would not pursue the "show cause" matter, if what he'd been told on the telephone is formalized in a court order.

Although McLeod and Ruth Mullinax have visitation privileges, Ken Mullinax does not.

Kirby said that has not been worked out yet.

[mother22wife21]

((((((((((Sally; eeevil conservative; republican; schmelvin;Fred Nerks; All)))))))))))

[judgemc]

You are absolutely correct! I do not think anyone who could financially gain from the death of another should be anywhere near the hospital if that person is sick.

But I think hear we tend to think in absolutes. What the doctor says goes, mostly because we trust them and we expect them to answer all our questions with absolutes. We want our doctor to say "This is exactly what is going to happen." We have good reason to expect that. Doctors spend alot of time learning their profession, and their education never stops.

But the human body is an amazing thing, it can defy absolutes. Doctors are learning new ways to save and protect people every day.
When you put all that together it seems that living wills take options away from a doctor to treat someone that the doctor might have had otherwise.

I worked on that all day Fred so I could explain to you exactly what I was trying to say yesterday.

[judgemc]

Thank you for the update.

(((((((((ALL))))))))))

[Fred Nerks]

And I agree with totally.

[supercat]

Mae needs to be given a chance to say a few things for a camcorder. If she states, e.g. that starvation/dehydration was so bad she never wants to be starved/dehydrated again, it would be hard to insist in future that someone pushing to starve/dehydrate her would be "carrying out her wishes". Not sure if she could legally update her will yet, but there should be a push to have her regain competance as soon as practical.

[Fred Nerks]

REPEATING: this sounds like excellent advice:


Posted by Fred Nerks to eeevil conservative
On General/Chat 04/13/2005 8:08:36 PM PDT · 2,502 of 2,575


http://www.prolifeblogs.com/ thanks for the link, eeevil, interesting snip from the site:


"Advice about Living Wills
Do not sign a living will or any of its variants. If you have signed one, rescind it immediately and destroy every copy. Do not sign an advance directive that would deny you treatment on the basis of vague and life-endangering language. Don't be deceived by "pro-life" packaging. Before you sign on the dotted line, read Dr. Byrne's informed analysis. - Earl (from Times Against Humanity) posting on BlogsforTerri

By Paul A. Byrne, M.D.
Past President, Catholic Medical Association"

[kimmie7]

Big grin. Huge even.

God is good all the time.

[Republic]

This thread is fantastic.

I am so happy for Mae...only wish Ken could visit her.

Please clear this up for me.

Mae is the grandmother.

Her sister and brother can now visit her.

Ken, a nephew, still cannot visit her.

Pat is...Mae's daughter-in -law? (Mae bought her a house, correct?)

Gaddy is Pat's dtr and a therefore a granddaughter-in-law?

Correct?

[Fred Nerks]

I'm not sure. All I know comes from the statement made by the relatives, that Miss Mae said she and her husband, while he was still alive, had bought Pat a house and paid the property taxes on it. 'Pat' would appear to be Gaddy's mother, but her relationship to Miss Mae is not known to me. May I suggest you ping eeevil conservative who might know more?

I'm delighted also. Miss Mae sounds like she has her sense of humour back as well! What did she say? 'Bring me a bag I want to go home!' Terrific! I would like to think that one day she will be well enough to read through his thread on FR, that should cheer her up immensely!

[Republic]

What a great thought that puts into my head...I can just imagine her enjoying the comments...but maybe not...there would some heartache to be found within our comments, no?