Data centers for AI could nearly triple San Jose’s energy use. Who foots the bill?

CalMatters ^ | December 8, 2025 | Alejandro Lazo

[artichokegrower]

Artificial intelligence and its growing demand for data centers are putting new pressure on California’s electric grid. In San Jose, supporters see jobs and investment, while a key ratepayer advocate worries customers could end up paying for upgrades.

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[dragnet2]

Isn’t that funny. Everyone goes with LED and the ever increasing power costs completely wipe out that big promise of LEDs lowering your power bills.

[from occupied ga]

Well fanboy, you want to know how EVs restrict travel. Let’s look:

1. restricted range and don’t give me the factory and EPA bullsh!t we all know those are lies.
2. long charging time
3. limited charging infrastructure
4. lack of compatibility in what limited public infrastructure exists
5. high initial cost
6. very expensive to repair
7. lack of repair part availability - try getting that Lucid fixed a couple of years down the road when the Saudis get tired of propping it up
8. disastrous depreciation rates
9. low but not zero probability of catastrophic fire if the traction battery is damaged

Just to mention a few and don’t forget just the general inconvenience of having to plan every trip around the needs of the car. Horses are worse, but when better came along horses as transportation were relegated to the dustbin of history.

In the early 20th century battery cars were developed along with gas cars. Our grandparents showing far more sense than EV shills show today dumped battery for petroleum. Today’s battery vehicles differ only in degree from the first time they were tried and found wanting

[dragnet2]

Don’t mind TexasTrumpHater. He’s been peddling electric car appliances for a long time. Btw, I hear EV sales are in the toilet.☺

[TexasGator]

"Just to mention a few and don’t forget just the general inconvenience of having to plan every trip around the needs of the car. Horses are worse, but when better came along horses as transportation were relegated to the dustbin of history."

Some are slow to inovation.

[TexasGator]

“restricted range”

One time, that was the argument for horses against cars.

[TexasGator]

“long charging time”

200 mile charge in 15 minutes.

[TexasGator]

“limited charging infrastructure”

In 1913 there was one gas station and 500,000 cars.

[TexasGator]

“very expensive to repair”

Very low maintenance

[TexasGator]

“limited charging infrastructure”

Over 100,000,000 charging stations

[Lazamataz]

In 1913 there was one gas station and 500,000 cars.

That line must have been AWFUL! 😂🤣😂🤣

[from occupied ga]

200 mile charge in 15 minutes

in what universe? That would be something like 100kwh in 15 minutes? That’s 400 kw. Let’s assume 800v on a public charger. That’s 400,000w/800v or 500 amps. I’m not sure the charging cable might or might not melt. Power loss in cable = I squared R if the cable has even a quarter ohm resistance that’s 62.5 kw heating the cable. Ever 1/10 of an ohm would generate 25,000 watts of heat and talking about heat wats that going todo to the battery? I’ve read that there is about an 8% loss in fast charging a Lion battery that’s 32 kw heating the battery even if the cooling system works this shortens the life of the battery

Now let’s analyze your statement further. Presumably a public charging point will handle more than one vehicle at a time. If it’s 10 that’s a 4 megawatt draw. A typical commercial nuclear PWR puts out about 880 MW. That the entire output of a commercial nuclear reactor to power 220 charging points.

My neighbor how has some sort of EV charges it all night every night. I thought you might be a serious person but coming up with this nonsense shows you are not.

[The Great RJ]

How many wind turbines and acres of solar panels would be needed to generate 18.7 gigawatts and how many tons of lithium batteries would be needed to store that energy for when the wind wasn’t blowing or at night and on cloudy days?

[TexasGator]

“in what universe? That would be something like 100kwh in 15 minutes? That’s 400 kw”

Nope. More like 50 kwh, or 200kw. The Tesla Supercharger is rated for 250 kw.

[from occupied ga]

You’re telling me that there are 100,000,000 charging points in the us infrastructure? Massive disbelief. There are fewer than 200,000 gas stations in the USA. You are not a person to be taken seriously.