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Populism isn't conservatism.
1 posted on 11/09/2025 1:16:18 PM PST by TBP
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I don’t believe I’ve heard or read anybody saying populism is conservatism.


2 posted on 11/09/2025 1:22:59 PM PST by ChuckHam
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Conservatism is too far down the road to worry about now. Now we have to conquer communism and Islamism, by any means available, because the communist and the Islamists are using any means available to conquer us.


3 posted on 11/09/2025 1:23:27 PM PST by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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This guy talks like a fag and his s***’s all retarded.


4 posted on 11/09/2025 1:24:02 PM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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Who are all these people piling on at this time? There’s a fox in the hen house. You know it when they use the word “cult “ as in group think. The right is like herding cats and I like the independence of that. If everyone chants the same slogan, I’m outta here.


5 posted on 11/09/2025 1:24:22 PM PST by griswold3 (Truth, Beauty and Goodness)
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What have conservatives actually conserved ?


6 posted on 11/09/2025 1:24:50 PM PST by escapefromboston (Peace, commerce and honest friendship with all nations, entangling alliances with none.)
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They used the lead to get to the tariffs and how they failed. Well they didn’t. Since the tariffs started:

Suspended rare earth export controls: China delayed its new export licensing regime for rare earth elements and related technologies.

Resumed U.S. agricultural purchases: China agreed to buy a minimum of 25 million metric tons of U.S. soybeans annually for the next three years and lifted retaliatory tariffs on other U.S. agricultural products.

Agreed to combat fentanyl: China pledged to crack down on the flow of chemicals used to make fentanyl into the United States.

Ended retaliatory actions: China ceased other recent retaliatory actions against U.S. companies and lifted retaliatory tariffs on U.S. goods.

Relaxed semiconductor trade restrictions: China agreed to relax some export controls on semiconductors and resume trade for semiconductor production.

Think they would have done this on their own?

wy69


7 posted on 11/09/2025 1:25:07 PM PST by whitney69
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They used the lead to get to the tariffs and how they failed. Well they didn’t. Since the tariffs started:

Suspended rare earth export controls: China delayed its new export licensing regime for rare earth elements and related technologies.

Resumed U.S. agricultural purchases: China agreed to buy a minimum of 25 million metric tons of U.S. soybeans annually for the next three years and lifted retaliatory tariffs on other U.S. agricultural products.

Agreed to combat fentanyl: China pledged to crack down on the flow of chemicals used to make fentanyl into the United States.

Ended retaliatory actions: China ceased other recent retaliatory actions against U.S. companies and lifted retaliatory tariffs on U.S. goods.

Relaxed semiconductor trade restrictions: China agreed to relax some export controls on semiconductors and resume trade for semiconductor production.

Think they would have done this on their own?

wy69


8 posted on 11/09/2025 1:25:08 PM PST by whitney69
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Just what is conservatism? Ask ten people and you’ll get ten different answers.


9 posted on 11/09/2025 1:26:37 PM PST by dfwgator ("I am Charlie Kirk!")
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Stopped reading at croaky


10 posted on 11/09/2025 1:34:46 PM PST by delchiante
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Why is Charlie Kirk mentioned in the headline? Maybe that “Kirk” is referring to Capt. Kirk. I didn’t see anything relating to either of them in the article — maybe I missed it.


12 posted on 11/09/2025 1:36:22 PM PST by FoxInSocks ("Hope is not a course of action." — M. O'Neal, USMC)
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Croaky? I would never take advice from someone named Croaky.


13 posted on 11/09/2025 1:41:04 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> --- )
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I have no idea what this guy is talking about.

Whoever said that no tarriffs are the bedrock of conservatism.

Trump did first rate job of explaining that in the first 100 years of America’s existence it was a high tarriff country—with no income taxes. That enabled the USA industry to ward off the better british industrialists through the 19th century.

Then when US industry became more competitive than the british industrialists—the switched policies to become a low tarriff country.

Now that so many countries have better industries than the US—its best for the US to revert to being a high tarriff country so as to nurture the growth of the US industries.

Big deal.

No conservatism needed. Just common sense. Thank you very much.


14 posted on 11/09/2025 1:41:12 PM PST by ckilmer
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True. Populism is NOT Conservatism.
  • Keeping us out of armed conflicts while we try to get our country back on more stable footing , as George Washington and John Adams did in their time, is Conservatism.

  • Addressing and stopping an existential flood of illegal aliens into this country, is Conservatism.

  • Putting our country on a path to Energy Dominance to grow our way out of socialist/Marxist schemes, is Conservatism.

  • Imposing tariffs on countries that engage in unfair trading practices like Communist China and Canada to restore and re-shore stolen and surrendered industries is Conservatism.

  • Reducing the size of government is Conservatism.

  • Fighting election fraud is Conservatism.

  • Reducing Taxes is Conservatism.

  • Reducing the bureaucratic red tape, burden, hurdles, and impediments to Nuclear Power, Oil, Coal, Gas, and mineral exploitation of resources is Conservatism.

  • Battling the evil of unlimited abortion is Conservatism.

  • Promoting 2nd Amendment Rights is Conservatism.

  • Purging DEI, Affirmative Action, and Critical Race Theory from the Military and Classrooms and keeping males out of female sports is Conservatism.

  • Impeding and stopping the evil and destruction of transgenderism on youth instead of encouraging it is Conservatism.

  • Reducing waste, fraud, and fiscal abuse in government is Conservatism.

  • Reducing crime is Conservatism.

  • Making the military an attractive option for potential recruits instead of milking the military as a jobs program for unqualified candidates is Conservatism.

This is not a criticism of you, TPM.

I disliked this article wholly. Of course Populism is not Conservatism, and the author seems fully invested in the notion that the Trump Presidency is all populism and no substance.

This person who wrote it sounds like a weak-kneed wimp who is going to cave at the first hint of pushback and run to the rear. These people who have taken over our country, robbed it of industry, infected it with DEI, CRT, and Affirmative Action did not do this overnight.

It took them decades to do it. And that destruction was nearly complete in 2024. This attempt to reclaim our country from those people is not going to be done overnight. It isn't going to be perfect. These evil people who have infested society at all levels, not just the government aren't going to raise their hands and surrender as they walk out the door saying "You got me."

They are burrowed in like ticks, and rooting them out and eliminating their influence and policies is going to take years, if not decades.

And it isn't going to all go in one direction...ours. That mindset is stupid, asinine, juvenile, and weak. There are going to be victories and losses. We will go through times of one step forward, one or two steps back. I won't be perfect, it won't be clean, and mistakes will be made.

People who write articles like this can exercise their free speech and spew blather as long as they don't get in the damn way.

17 posted on 11/09/2025 1:57:17 PM PST by rlmorel (Factio Communistica Sinensis Delenda Est.)
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I’ll take populism over RINO-ism any day of the week.

I’m tired of the useless quislings that call themselves republicans, that claim to be conservatives, refusing to even lift a finger to counter the evil that is today’s democrat party.

Most Republicans are but modern day Whigs. Useless, pretend opposition to the destruction of our constitutional republic.


29 posted on 11/09/2025 2:28:35 PM PST by meyer (CONGRATULATIONS WORLD, IT’S TIME FOR PEACE!)
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This was never supposed to be the story of conservatism: a movement once defined by statesmen and scholars, now reduced to a cosplay convention where quoting Burke gets you called a traitor and calling for restraint gets you booed off the stage by men in tactical shorts.

"Intellectual conservatism" used to be all about quoting Burke and not about getting anything done. It was the "designated loser" in political debates, as people say about McCain and Romney. If you have Congress and the presidency, sure, you can be "restrained" but you have to be more than that. You have to actually do something, not repeat the same tired cant. I don't know what tactical shorts have to do with anything, but I do hope the writer's experience wasn't too traumatic.

35 posted on 11/09/2025 2:53:34 PM PST by x
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Neither are these Neocons.


36 posted on 11/09/2025 2:56:11 PM PST by Alas Babylon! (They don't kill you because you're a Nazi, they call you a Nazi so they can kill you.--CFW)
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Populism is not conservatism, and this is not a good article.


42 posted on 11/09/2025 3:41:59 PM PST by ChessExpert (Infidels of the world unite against the evil that is Islam.)
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But is blind diversity conservatism?

What a moronic stament, especially considering that I have never heard anyone claim that populism was conservaive.

In fact, the Democrat Socailist have started a left wing of the popul;ism movement. Which onl y proves that popilism is not really the MAGA movement. It's a n America first ,ovement. A movement that places its citizens considerations about all other considerations. That might ne considered nationalistic, but just because it has gained popularity, does not make it a populist movement.

If one wants to call it a populist movement, than it must be considered a nationalistic populist movement, while the left's popuulism movement is an anit-nationalistic movement.

So, TBP, state which movement that you support. Only a nation united stands, a divivded nation falls, and the only united movement is the MAGA American First movement, period. All other movements desire to see this nation destroyed.

51 posted on 11/09/2025 4:47:31 PM PST by Robert DeLong
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That guy sure likes to hear himself talk gibberish.


56 posted on 11/09/2025 5:45:17 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (I have no answers. Only questions.)
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I could immediately tell the type of nauseating stench this article was going to expel simply based upon the play of words by the author of the article. So talentless that they result to spoonerism.


61 posted on 11/09/2025 6:57:31 PM PST by New Perspective (As Leonard Cohen said once in an interview, “You won’t like what comes after America”)
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