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The U.S. Air Force Needs Hundreds of Boeing F-47 ‘NGAD’ Fighters
National Security Journal ^ | 8/25/2025 | Kris Osborn

Posted on 08/25/2025 11:07:42 AM PDT by whyilovetexas111

In a future conflict with China, technological superiority alone will not be enough; “mass matters.” The vast distances of the Indo-Pacific and the limitations of sea-launched airpower create a critical need for a large, land-based fleet of long-range, 6th-generation F-47 fighters. A substantial number of F-47s would be essential to overwhelm enemy defenses, deliver the necessary volume of ordnance, and create a resilient, networked force capable of shortening the sensor-to-shooter timeline. Without a large F-47 fleet, the U.S. risks being unable to effectively project power and prevail in a great-power conflict.

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To: whyilovetexas111

Interesting that they are bringing back the F-47, originally known as the P-47 Thunderbolt, which was retired from active duty in the Air Force in 1949 but served for a few years longer in the Air National Guard.


21 posted on 08/25/2025 11:46:00 AM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: Ancesthntr
Good post.

No one in their right mind thinks we can have dominate air superiority with 179 F22s, half of which are operational at any given time.

The F-35s will control the drones.

22 posted on 08/25/2025 11:53:04 AM PDT by pfflier
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To: Seruzawa
Ha! The NSJ strikes again with another 500 billion dollar project for Raytheon

If you were even slightly informed on the subject, you should know that Boeing is prime on the F-47.

23 posted on 08/25/2025 11:56:41 AM PDT by pfflier
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To: whyilovetexas111

Big defense contractors, future retired flag ranks, congressmen and senators need the money.


24 posted on 08/25/2025 11:58:46 AM PDT by Thud
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To: whyilovetexas111

Definitely more attractive than the F-35 or the hideous X-32 "Monica".

25 posted on 08/25/2025 12:01:46 PM PDT by mgstarr ("I drink, therefore I am" Rene Descartes (1637))
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To: pfflier

“In a future conflict with China...”

Wait, please first explain scenarios where it would be either reasonable or unavoidable that the USA gets into a shooting war with China.


26 posted on 08/25/2025 12:06:12 PM PDT by Stingray51 ( )
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To: PAR35

Bingo!


27 posted on 08/25/2025 12:13:28 PM PDT by Wally_Kalbacken
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To: niteowl77

The B-47 was a widow maker due to structural deficiencies.


28 posted on 08/25/2025 12:16:19 PM PDT by Rockingham
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To: Stingray51

How about: China attacks US forces.


29 posted on 08/25/2025 12:19:20 PM PDT by Rockingham
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To: Vermont Lt

30 posted on 08/25/2025 12:32:54 PM PDT by Fido969
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To: Wilderness Conservative

swords turned into plowshares is for the millennium that will begin after the second coming of Jesus Christ .. so we should not get our hopes up. It is best to pay attention to Paul in his letter to the Thessalonians ..... 1 Thessalonians 5:3 in the Bible, where he warns that sudden destruction will occur at a time when people think there is peace and security, like labor pains on a pregnant woman.


31 posted on 08/25/2025 1:19:14 PM PDT by californian by choice (Who are those who believe in science?)
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To: Stingray51
Wait, please first explain scenarios where it would be either reasonable or unavoidable that the USA gets into a shooting war with China.

Scenario 1: China pre-emptively attacks a US asset like Hawaii or Guam, or US bases in Korea or Japan while attacking Taiwan.

Scenario 2: China attacks our navy assets on the high seas.

Scenario 3: US honors defense treaties with allies like Korea, Japan and Taiwan.

Scenario 4: China initiates a direct attack against the continental US with ICBMs.

Scenario 5: China holds our country hostage with threats of strikes from space borne weapons system.

32 posted on 08/25/2025 1:19:21 PM PDT by pfflier
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To: whyilovetexas111

NGAD = next generation air dominance


33 posted on 08/25/2025 1:26:16 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th (Get out of the matrix and get a real life.)
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To: whyilovetexas111

well, when the production gets cut back, you get 1/3 the planes at the same cost. Pentagon budget math, gotta love it.


34 posted on 08/25/2025 1:29:38 PM PDT by Waverunner (Torah! Torah! Torah! my favorite IDF radio code.)
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To: whyilovetexas111

well, when the production gets cut back, you get 1/3 the planes at the same cost. Pentagon budget math, gotta love it.


35 posted on 08/25/2025 1:30:15 PM PDT by Waverunner (Torah! Torah! Torah! my favorite IDF radio code.)
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To: pfflier

One clarification: We do not have a treaty obligation to come to the defense of Taiwan in the event it is attacked.


36 posted on 08/25/2025 2:26:03 PM PDT by Stingray51 ( )
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To: whyilovetexas111

NGAD

I don’t even want to think about how that’s pronounced.


37 posted on 08/25/2025 2:27:46 PM PDT by PLMerite ("They say that we were Cold Warriors. Yes, and a bloody good show, too. 😁 " - Robert Conquest )
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To: willk

I was thinking P-47 Thunderbolt........


38 posted on 08/25/2025 2:33:39 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: whyilovetexas111

Build a two-engine stealth airframe and use F-35 engines, avionics and cockpit design. Only the airframe need be a major development item.

It would have the advantage of being able to be reliably put into service in about a year.


39 posted on 08/25/2025 2:38:30 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: Stingray51

WIKI

The TRA does not guarantee or relinquish the U.S. intervening militarily if the PRC attacks or invades Taiwan, as its primary purpose is to ensure that the Taiwan policy will not be changed unilaterally by the U.S. president and ensure any decision to defend Taiwan will be made with the consent of the Congress.

The act states that “the United States will make available to Taiwan such defense articles and defense services in such quantity as may be necessary to enable Taiwan to maintain a sufficient self-defense capability”....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiwan_Relations_Act


40 posted on 08/25/2025 2:43:19 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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