Posted on 12/27/2024 10:05:09 AM PST by SoConPubbie
That’s nice. Of course there are talented foreign engineers, nor did I say we needed to stop hiring them altogether.
Musk and Ramaswamy want to increase H1B hires to 2-3x what they are now, so they can force American engineers to be paid half what they’re worth. This is monstrous. I’m not sure why you’re still adamant that this is a good thing for America.
Tunnel rats, for example, in the US can't be beat. But it's 95% ojt. Not advanced college degrees.
Engineers here suck straight out of school. Even ones with Masters Degrees. They simply can't do what the ones coming from Germany, India, Hungary, etc. can do at the same age.
Why? Because our high schools suck. Because our grademschools suck. Feriners are doing calculus in the 7th grade. American kids are watching hairy crossdressers twerk. Unions and blue states and DEI crap for decades means kids don't know basic 3 R's like they did 50 years ago. Hence college has been dumbed down.
The smartest kids, highest achievers, in STEM fields in College are foreigners. Plain and simple. Many on Visas.
Now do you want the best Engineers built designing your new Boeing? Well guess what? Very few native Americans are good enough to keep planes from falling out of the skies. It's sad, but true.
I've had H1B dudes working for me, and they really Do appreciate America more than the dude texting on his phone all day. And accomplish more.
Sorry, but thems the facts. And Mark Bradman aka Sundress is once again throwing rocks in the wrong direction.
Pretty much sums the situation up perfectly.
I do disagree that all American born engineers suck out of college but far too many do.
And you are spot on about how badly most US high school grads are educated at the time of graduation. Most are totally unprepared to succeed at the university level.
These days a serious STEM degree is more of a 5-6 year program with a year or two of intense remedial study needed to master the basics in course work and study skills that should have been taught in HS.
Elon’s never gonna sleep with you, Joe. Give it up.
So then, using your logic - NO ONE on this thread knows what they are talking about regarding immigration.
Maybe lock the thread until Elon Musk becomes a FReeper?
Nope. We do not have such immediate needs. We already have Americans able and ready to do the job. I’ve got 40 years in this space and know it as well or better than anyone.
Those agreeing with Musk know what they are talking about.
The far left anti Musk crowd don’t have a clue.
As usual
“We already have Americans able and ready to do the job”
Like at Boeing?
Boeing has lots of good people, lead by DEI types. BTW, the problems (lie Max, et al.) at Boeing were created by their use of Indians.
This is a result of the free trade sellouts of the past.
Why would multinational companies invest locally in education and training when they can outsource labor and import brains. There is no giant push by Apple, Microsoft etc into American universities and talent, there is no need, they import it.
These multinationals keep getting rewarded with wonderful tax breaks and incentives while pushing for mass migration. Until whitey stops voting GOP there will be not change, vast amounts of people keep on voting for suicide every election.
“the US technology industry would not survive without top foreign born talent.”
Yes, it would. Name some inventions that drive any technology industry that were created by a foreigner. I can name countless inventions by Americans.
I hate Tesla and SpaceX is just a capability any investment company could do otherwise. Very little major inventions with SpaceX. Musk simply had the balls, with 100% credit to him for it, to cut the typical bureaucracy and create SpaceX.
Oh, and PayPal wasn’t his invention. In fact, the people at PayPal hated the code he gave them and shitcanned it.
I used to work at a large university with a well respected engineering program. In the late 90's, students held an engineering job fair. NO major tech company sent representatives. We all knew what this was about. Tech firms were actively working to lower wages and weren't hiring from American schools.
No, you are simply feeling argumentative. Too many young people today are self-absorbed, and do-just-enough-to-get-by. That's not good enough for high tech R&D. The labor pool is much larger in India than the U.S.
Sure, and 'we' outsource and import it. American wages has always been the target of free traitors, nothing has changed. You left out the business investment side into here, which has taken massive steps back.
Boeing is DEI and Indian, so you’re kind of making my point. Thanks!
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