Posted on 12/27/2024 10:05:09 AM PST by SoConPubbie
Yes, I understand that you too are a Chamber of Commerce “conservative”. When will there be enough Americans available to “fill the demand”? I get that YOU don't get that there will be NO DEMAND FOR AMERICAN SYSTEMS DEVELOPERS as long as all slots can be filled by low-cost imported Indians.
I had a great (and highly paid) career in complex systems development. In today's world I wouldn't be able to even get a start in the industry. My first step into the industry was being selected solely by taking an IQ test and passing several personal interviews. Once hired I was trained and developed skills and knowledge by increasingly complex on-the-job experience. Young Americans today largely do not have that same route UNFORTUNATELY because of the EASY availability of rudimentary trained Indians.
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Hate to burst your bubble on this one but Chamber of Commerce Americans want to offshore American industries and invest in foreign production. What we are talking about here is investing in America and bringing industries back to America. If we are going to make America great again, we are going to need the very best talent in people to make it so. We just don't have that many people who are ready to hit the ground running so we need to recruit the best from wherever they can be found.
Not true. The Tesla Musk bought was a fledgling primitive company with practically nothing in common with today’s Tesla. What about Space X ? The Boring Company ? Starlink ? Did he buy those too ?
I have news for you. While it is true that the liberal arts colleges are producing minds full of mush, there are tons of great technical colleges and universities that are turning out extremely talented American engineers.
The problem is that Musk and other cheap labor tech magnates will hire Americans first because they can get H1B indentured servants for a fraction of the salary that they would offer an American who could freely leave a job without having to move out of the US.
Maybe you’re okay with replacing our next generation of talented engineers with foreigners, but I’m not.
View IS FINISHED Politicly, he’s a phony.
There’s a Tesla today because of non-Musk AMERICAN expertise with Musk’s money.
There’s SpaceX today because of non-Musk AMERICAN expertise with Musk’s money.
Musk’s only talent is having money.
I really do not care who comes here, where they come from, or what their job is. I *do* care that whoever it is understands clearly and honors dearly the difference between being a citizen on the United States and a citizen of the world.
My reply to you was given to you by accident meant for another poster SORRY!!
Lot of people here and on X having a knee jerk reaction. While it’s true there is abuse in the H1B system which is badly in need of reform, the US technology industry would not survive without top foreign born talent. Just look at the team that built the Google search engine starting with the guy who coded the original version in 4 months (Amit Singhal), or the guy who started the modern AI revolution of 2022 (Ashish Vaswani) with the brilliant idea of a ‘Transformer’ (the T in chatGPT). These are people no one’s heard of but America *needs* people like them.
Vivek
With a population of 1.4 Billion, the pool of candidates is much greater in India.
To scale up the re shoring of America's largely destroyed industrial base, we are going to need good to go talent in existence right now that is ready to hit the ground running at a scale so macroscopic that there is no way we fill all the needed slots solely with American talent for many years to come - even with a 1960s space race style commitment to educate and train suitable high tech workers.
Have been dealing with this for the last several years and I can assure you that there is a critical shortage of highly skilled workers across the board that is holding back the rebuilding of America's industrial base, especially in high tech.
We are talking about re building entire industries that have been beat down and fled the country for decades. And some of our emerging technologies are so advanced and difficult to implement that you really need to cast a world wide net to find the best people to build the technology.
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My American dentist who I had been going to for 30 years, retired last year, his practice was taken over by someone from India. It’s not just IT. My field is not IT, but I worked contract for a while. My contract job was outsourced to contractors in India. If there’s money to be made, Indian contractors will be right there.
I’m sorry to hear that.
I not only know the history of those companies but also knew people who worked with the ACTUAL founders and innovators of those companies.
Musk buying inventors doesn’t make him an inventor, just an investor.
China now graduates more engineers and computer scientists than the rest of the world combined, and it’s hard to conduct AI research without Chinese researchers
No you don't!
Everything you've said so far proves you just don't know what the heck you are talking about.
Either the American economy is going to be a machine that gets things done or it will be a collection of gears and bearings that are constantly lubricated and coddled but never turn.
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